Stringer replacement wood.

DUNK51

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Replacing the stringers in my Terry bass boat and I was wondering what wood to use. 2x8 or plywood?
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

2 pieces of 3/4" plywood laminated which will be stronger then a standard 2 x 8
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

Ayuh,.... Most of Us laminate up plywood stringers,...

Plywood is stronger than dimensional lumber,...
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

use titebond III glue from lowes or home depot to laminate the plywood
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

thanks: I was wondering what glue was best. I also was thinking about what would be the best thing to secure the stringers to the hull peanut butter resin or something else?
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

what do you mean by "secure"?

Do you mean temporarily until you glass them or are you talking permanently? If it is the later, Peanut butter is not what you want. It is only used to fill gaps and voids between the hull and the stringers and provide a bedding compound. Stringers must be fiber glassed to the hull.
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

For bedding the stringers I will be tabbing in the stringers in with two layers. But I have seen on other restorations were people using what looks like Tight bond or something similar to glue the new stringers to the hull. Maybe I have watching to many restoration videos but I am planning on keeping this boat for a long time and don't want a problem in a couple of years. I have even seen someone using polyurethane to glue them down.
 

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PB . . . A mixture of resin and glass material that is usually formulated for bonding the trigger to the hull
 
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What you see in the videos is PL construction Adhsive. It is used not to provide a "gluing" effect to the stringers but rather to provide a soft and flexable bedding under the stringers to avoid the posibility of forming hard spots. Some people prefer PB for this purpose and some others use the PL approach. Both has pros & cons, PL takes time (few days) to fully cure and be ready to glass over. This is the most common complaint about PL. I - personally have couple of takes on PB myself that you can find out in this thread

http://forums.iboats.com/boat-resto...bie-stringer-question-636264.html#post4468538
 

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I have even seen someone using polyurethane to glue them down.

Just be advised.....if you use polyurethane adhesive (a PL product) it will take at least 72 hrs to set up........ if you "push" it.......you will see the PL start to melt and leach out from the resins used with fiberglass :)
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

Another issue with PL is Neither Poly Resin or Epoxy resin will stick to it very well so any "messes" need to be cleaned up properly prior to applying resin.
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

Thanks Deep Blue: That was a lot of info. The PL makes sense that it could cushion impacts but I think that it would not matter because of the fiberglass tabbing that will not flex. I also think I would feel more comfortable with PB. Thanks for your responses they have helped. The first good weekend I will get started.:)
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

There is a purpose made foam or material for placement under stringers before you tab them. Some years back, Regulator had hulls cracking/splitting. They hard mounted the stringers to the hull. I'm not a SME on this, but my brother is. He mentioned it when I was with him over Christmas.
 

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There is a purpose made foam or material for placement under stringers before you tab them. Some years back, Regulator had hulls cracking/splitting. They hard mounted the stringers to the hull. I'm not a SME on this, but my brother is. He mentioned it when I was with him over Christmas.
Now you'll have to get more info & post it :)
 

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Re: Stringer replacement wood.

Lots of issues posted on this forum and elsewhere about the PL type adhesives giving way, once the tabbing is applied.

My 2 cents on the subject of the stringer bonding and tabbing to the hull. . .

The stringer itself represents a 'hard spot' where it contacts the hull. During the hull's impact with water the hull will tend to 'bend' around any hard spots. The 'bend' areas can result in surface cracks (crazing) of the gelcoat on the outside of the hull.

So, the various methods associated with stringer bonding and tabbing are designed to spread the 'hard spot' over a wider area, resulting in less bending, as well as giving the fiberglass tabbing material a radius bend as it meets the hull.

Offsetting the stringer from the hull tends to spread the forces over a wider area, because the forces between stringer and hull would have to go through the tabbing and any bedding material.

Hulls with foam-filled chambers have an advantage over non-foamed hulls in that the foam provides support and rigidity to the areas between the stringers (and cross members) . . . so less 'bending' of the hull during impact.

On both of my Formula boats, the stringers, bulkheads and cross-members are offset from the hull about 3/8" prior to tabbing them to the hull, and the contact for these components to the hull is purely through the tabbing. When I did some structural repairs on my F-242, I made the same 3/8" offset, but put some urethane foam in the gap between the hull and structural member rather than leaving it open as an air gap.

So, if you did use a foam adhesive for the stringer-hull bonding, you could probably do it, realizing that the forces will be going more directly through the tabbing material.

. . . Just my 2 cents.

EDIT/UPDATE: I found one of Dave Pascoe's articles that talks about the effect of stringers on the hull and what he refers to as the 'hinge' effect when the stringers are slightly suspended above the hull.

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/HullFailP2.htm
 
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