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Out fishing yesterday; got the warning of an outbound warship, 500 yard perimeter, deadly force, all that.

so there goes by a nuke sub. Hope the photo's show it--the black shape in front of the shoreline.
 

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Tig

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Very cool! Thanks for posting that.
 

Fishing Dude too

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These boys arn't anything to mess with, but haven't seen one underway since saw one leave west coast port.
 

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I was at the Bay Bridge-Tunnel overlook last fall and saw a sub leaving Norfolk. The only thing visible above the surface was the conning tower-well except for a white-water wake about 50 yards forward (the hull). I was surprised how fast it was running on the surface- guessing maybe 25 knots.
Very cool indeed!
 

jayhanig

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Very cool. I was in San Diego a couple of years ago and watched the patrol boats running around with their M-60 mounted and manned. The thought occurred to me then that they were nobody to play with. The thought made me proud.
 

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I was at the Bay Bridge-Tunnel overlook last fall and saw a sub leaving Norfolk. The only thing visible above the surface was the conning tower-well except for a white-water wake about 50 yards forward (the hull). I was surprised how fast it was running on the surface- guessing maybe 25 knots.
Very cool indeed!

Not trying to be argumentative, but something's not right. Sub's can't run fast on the surface. 5 knot max. Any faster and they risk cavitating. Cavitation on that big of a prop can tear them apart, or at a minimum change their noise signature. You didn't say how much of the con tower was visible, so there's a chance they were partially submerged, but still couldn't go that fast.

How do I know - spend 24 hours on surface transit through a storm just once and you'll know exactly how subs travel on the surface! Never been that seasick in all my life.

Previous home was Groton CT.
 

dingbat

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Not trying to be argumentative, but something's not right. Sub's can't run fast on the surface. 5 knot max. Any faster and they risk cavitating.

The "recognized" cruise speed of a surfaced Ohio class submarine is 20 kts.

We crossed paths with one trolling in the shipping channel last year. The freighters run a constant 10 knots coming up the Bay which gives us a good 10 -15 minute window to clear the area. This sub was rolling. It was on us in no time. It was doing at least 15 knots, probably closer to 20 given the speed it closed on us.
 

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In San Diego Bay, when you see the CG boats, followed by some orange tugs, followed by some Navy PT boats, you GTFO of the channel 'cause a Navy ship's a-coming through.
 

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Part of everyday life in San Diego, coolest thing I saw was one surfacing while 9 miles out. The only tale tale was a Navy helicopter close to the surface and next thing we saw was a sub popping out.
 

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Very cool stories, guys. Keep 'em coming. We don't see too many subs on Greers Ferry lake. I guess they have trouble getting past the dam.:p
 

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Not trying to be argumentative, but something's not right. Sub's can't run fast on the surface..... You didn't say how much of the con tower was visible, so there's a chance they were partially submerged, but still couldn't go that fast.

No problem Jon- hey I wasn't packin' my radar gun that day, maybe he was only doing 20:)
But he WAS moving surprisingly fast! I couldn't see the hull so I don't know how much tower I was looking at.
 

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I traveled from my home in SC to Berlin Md last week to pick up a boat I bought on Ebay and had my first experience on/in the Chesapeake Bay bridge tunnel. My son and I stopped at the viewing station but there was a pretty heavy fog so you couldn't really see all that far. When we came out of the convience center, low and behold, there's an aircraft carrier on the horizon, on the way in.... wish we had had time to wait on it. On the return trip several hours later, we got to watch a destroyer of some sort zip on in.
 

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All the reasons to have your VHF tuned into.....1....6...Over.
 

bart98stang

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Not trying to be argumentative, but something's not right. Sub's can't run fast on the surface. 5 knot max. Any faster and they risk cavitating. Cavitation on that big of a prop can tear them apart, or at a minimum change their noise signature. You didn't say how much of the con tower was visible, so there's a chance they were partially submerged, but still couldn't go that fast.

How do I know - spend 24 hours on surface transit through a storm just once and you'll know exactly how subs travel on the surface! Never been that seasick in all my life.

Previous home was Groton CT.

I'm not trying to be argumentative either but you are incorrect. The published speed of a Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarine depending which Navy, DoD, or civilian website is approx. 12 knots. The submarine pictured above just got underway from Naval Station Norfolk, Va inside of the Thimble Shoals Channel which is dredged to 50 feet so there is no way that submarine is partially submerged. Also, just by looking at the pictures above you can clearly see the bow, sail (conning tower), the hull where the missile tubes are located, and the rudder. Besides the nuclear reactor there is nothing more of a secret than a submarine propeller so no one can assume if or when it will cavitate. The noise of the water moving over the bow and into the sail causes a lot of noise while surfaced so noise is not an issue, only when submerged which is when the secrecy of the propeller comes into play.

How do I know - I am a active duty Chief Petty Officer in the United States Navy with over 15 years of active service. I have spent 12 of my 15 years of duty in Norfolk and I worked for 3 years on both Los Angeles and Ohio Class submarines.

Disclaimer - All of this info is on Navy, DoD, and public websites and also goes more into detail on History Channel's Modern Marvels.
 

PiratePast40

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You're right about the surface sound signature. Doesn't really mean squat. There are boomers on constant patrol "somewhere" and there are fast attacks out there running interference or on a spec op "somewhere" too. You don't see them, you don't hear about them, they just do their jobs. Hope they have a safe and uneventful patrol.
 
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