Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

[kungpaoshizi]

Motors in the sig, but curious to hear different experiences with products etc for winterizing, it is after all a fairly old engine.
Thanks very much!

 

[JimS123]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Its all the same regardless of year.....OEM gearcase lower unit oil, Stabil, generic fogging oil, OEM spark plugs, OEM fuel filter (If equipped), Mequires wax, etc.

My daily runner 1952 Rude and 1970 Rude and 2009 Yami all get the same thing.

 

[kungpaoshizi]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

I've heard though fogging oils can gum up the carb fuel bowls iirc?

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

you don't need to winterize an outboard, but some people like to fog a motor that won't be run for 6 months.

the other stuff is just maintenance (like checking the LU for water, which shouldn't be in there in any season) or stabilizing fuel that will sit (use it in the car instead).

Always store the motor vertically and not tilted, so that the water drains, new water doesn't come in and freezes. Some say carbs fare better when the motor is vertical so the bowls are tilted; no way to know if that's true but it makes sense.

 

[Chris1956]

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Kung, Fogging oil never enters the carb bowls, so it has no way to gum it up. For an OB, put fuel stabilizer in the fuel tank, run the motor to circulate the stabilized fuel. Now spray the fogging oil in the carb throats, get her to smoke good and try to stall her out. If she won't stall, turn her off. Let her drain, change the gear oil, lube the grease fittings, lube the steering rod. Disconnect and charge the battery. Top off the PTT oil. In the spring, you can change the spark plugs, after you have run all the fogging oil out of her.

 

[kungpaoshizi]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Ahh I see, I bet someone put it in the gas tank then... (that might also explain the reddish colored flakes I found floating around in the gas tank when I got this boat from the PO)

Any suggestions for a brand of fogging oil, or is perhaps Sea Foam appropriate? Maybe even gas mixed with Marvel Mystery Oil? got both of those sitting in the garage. Though I've heard some conjecture from RC plane guys on the MMO drying over time.

 

[Chris1956]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Acme brand fogging oil and stabilizer. That's a joke. Any kind will do.

 

[kungpaoshizi]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Acme brand fogging oil and stabilizer. That's a joke. Any kind will do.

Thanks fellas!

 

[JimS123]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Acme brand fogging oil and stabilizer. That's a joke. Any kind will do.

That's probably true, but.....

I usually use OEM products, specific to the engine I own. When I got my first PWC 20+ years ago (a SeaDoo naturally....LOL) I bought some of their "Bombardier Lube" that they recommend for fogging and general lubrication of chokes, cables, etc. Since then I have gotten rid of all my fogging oil, silicone spray, WD-40, etc. and I use that stuff exclusively for all my outboards, I/O's, lawnmowers, etc. It just works that good.

Ok, its a bit more expensive, but since a can lasts about 3 years I can't even tell.

 

[Chris1956]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Jim, What was the standard that you used to judge the BRC stuff to be better than "Brand-X" fogging oil?

 

[kungpaoshizi]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Just a side thought, I know some will say it's not a big deal, but looking in the cylinders through the spark plug hole, I can see a little rust. I know one of the main purposes of fogging is to prevent this, but you guys have any suggestions on how to remove some of this? Compression is 130's for all the cylinders so obviously it's not detrimental, but it is an annoyance...

 

[JimS123]

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Jim, What was the standard that you used to judge the BRC stuff to be better than "Brand-X" fogging oil?

It's BRP.

It works for all lubrication needs as well as fogging. Don't need to store different products. Things like choke linkages and throttle cables used to need a touchup mid season, now they are well lubricated all season long. Initial burnoff of fogging oil in the Spring leaves no residue and hardly any smoke. I am able to change the plugs in the Fall and don't have to do it in again the Spring. It also smells nice!

 

[Chris1956]

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So your criteria is that the lube is made by BRP, is superior, because it is made by BRP? Is that accurate? If so, I am not sure I can understand that.

Kung, not sure what you can do about the rust. If the rings cross it, they will get stuck or clean it off. Other than that, don't worry about it. You may have had some residual moisture in the cylinder causing the rust.

 

[jasonbailey]

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I'm getting ready to do some hull repair work and expect my O/B to be instorage for about 9 months or so. What do you guys think about draining the gas from the carbs as well?

 

[JimS123]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

So your criteria is that the lube is made by BRP, is superior, because it is made by BRP? Is that accurate? If so, I am not sure I can understand that.

No that's not accurate, and you obviously did NOT understand it. You called it BRC, which either was a typo on your part, or you aren't familiar with the company. The first sentence in my reply was merely correcting your mistake, and explaining that is was BRP!

My subsequent remarks explained why I thought it was better. It has nothing to do with who manufactures it. To summarize my criteria in case you didn't read my whole reply, I like it because it smells better!

 

[Chris1956]

Re: Suggestions for winterizing, carb specific

Jim, Smell it is. I saw no other analysis, at least no other I could recognize.