Suggestions on boat replacement

LimpingBuf

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Okay, I'm leaving myself wide open but here goes ...

I'd like some suggestions on whether to replace or rebuild my 1981 21 ft. bayliner bowrider.

My primary uses for the boat (in order) are: 1. crabbing; 2. generally running around with grandkids, usually out for lunch or dinner; 3. tubing or wakeboarding with my kids and their spouses; and 4. shrimping.

The general arrangement of the current boat works quite well. I especially like the back-to-back arrangements of the two center seats and the way the two aft seat cushions are set up to make a pad running athwartship across the stern. This set up gives me a place to secure and haul 4 crab or shrimp pots and the deck space in the cockpit to work the pots.

That being said, this boat is old and tired and in need of a complete rebuild. Also, I would prefer a deeper and heavier hull. I've been looking at replacing the boat, but I really can't find anything that has the same general arrangement. I figure that rebuilding the boat the way I want will run me around $7,000, but that won't give me the hull I would prefer.

I am willing to spend up to $25,000 on a replacement (it must be trailerable) and am looking for suggestions.

Please don't go off on a rant about the quality, etc. of a bayliner or the experience level of their owners. I am a maritime acadamy grad, I've sailed professionally, remain in the industry and this is not my first boat (I did expect it to be the last). I bought this because my wife insisted that I teach my grandkids how to crab, fish and operate a power boat. Having experienced the joys of maintaining and funding unused boats, I bought this thing for $3,000 figuring like the last one, it would never get used. I was dead wrong, my grandsons love it.

Thanks for your thoughts.
 

RotaryRacer

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Re: Suggestions on boat replacement

Look for a dual console "fishing" type of boat.

Makes like Grady White, Pursuit, Sea Hunt, Sea Fox, Scout have great boats in the 20-22' range that would suit your needs well.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Suggestions on boat replacement

It all comes down to cost versus benefit. If you really like the hull and intend keeping it for a number of years, then the cost can be amortized over those years of ownership

Bayliners are a much maligned brand and their selling price reflects this. If you do not intend to keep the hull for a number of years, then the work and money you put into restoring will be lost-- No one really cares about spending premium money for a common old boat.

Now, if it were something like a Glasspar G3 or a Glastron GT 150 (James Bond boat) These hulls have a following, command premium prices, and are almost always worth restoring.

Understand that investing in a newer hull, the loan payments go on while the boat sits in the driveway, but your current hull can be restored on a cash basis.

So, while it is not much help, my recommendation is to sit down and think through whether or not you really want to invest time and money in your current hull or if you would prefer something newer and more pricey.
 

saumon

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Re: Suggestions on boat replacement

$25K is a big chunk of money!

For your intended use, I think an open layout center console would be ideal. A 1981-1991 Boston Whaler Outrage 18/19I is an awesome boat. With new power, they can be found for around $15K and are easily trailered on a single axle trailer. Buid quality isn't an issue and they last forever if maintained. I wish I had those teak gunnels and brightwork on mine!

Even if they're 18'6" instead of your 21", they'll have much more usable working space and I haven't even talked about seaworthiness!
 

MarkSee

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Re: Suggestions on boat replacement

My primary uses for the boat (in order) are: 1. crabbing; 2. generally running around with grandkids, usually out for lunch or dinner; 3. tubing or wakeboarding with my kids and their spouses; and 4. shrimping.
I am a maritime acadamy grad, I've sailed professionally, remain in the industry and this is not my first boat (I did expect it to be the last). I bought this because my wife insisted that I teach my grandkids how to crab, fish and operate a power boat. I was dead wrong, my grandsons love it.

With what you're doing with it:
keep it; fix it; beat the hell out of it; then when it's time to replace something major again, evaluate again.

Mark
 

roscoe

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Re: Suggestions on boat replacement

Something like this.


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MAKO Boats : Offshore Boats : 2013 184 CC Description
 

saumon

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Re: Suggestions on boat replacement


Yep, similar layout.

I don't know where you are but here's what looks like an immaculate BW Outrage 18, freshwater-used only, without bottom paint, full canvas set, updated electronics and a newer Suzuki 4-stroke (he didn't say if it's a 115 or a 150) with 100 hours on it in the Boston area.

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Priced (asking) at $18K, the engine alone selling new for close to $15K, it mean you get the hull, trailer and electronics for next to nothing. Maybe it's just me, but I'd take the 26 years old Outrage over the new Mako any day! And it's half the price...
 
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