SUV's & Terroists ?

[SS MAYFLOAT]

I wish whoever comes up with this crap would be stripped down naked, put in stockaides, and then put on public display at a mall with a sign stating their stupidity. Maybe have rocks and sticks there to inflict some pain too.<br /><br />I just hope these idiots don't find out about how much fuel is used in pleasure boats for recreation. Does this make us terroists? I don't think so, and I don't think that SUV owners are either. <br /><br />Govenor Taft said NO to oil/gas drilling in Lake Erie. Could someone say that his belief is to make us buy foriegn oil to support terrorism? <br /><br />The media needs to screen out the things that cause Americans to turn on one another. We don't need news at this time to tear us apart in these times when we need to be together as one. Just maybe the media is to blame for so many foriegners to hate us so much. <br /><br />Just Venting my opinion. Thanks for listening.

 

[JB]

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Let em try towing an 18' boat with their pipsqueak motorskates.<br /><br />They might even try my driveway in the rainy season.

 

[plywoody]

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While I think the SUV thing is just silly, why in the world would you recommend the media, or anyone else, censor the news?<br />That's what they do in totalitarian regimes--control the news.

 

[Capt Ken]

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How about the ones that started the "what would Jesus drive" campain in order to counter the SUV sales. Thinking he would probably drive something economical being he was a simple man. But Jay Leno summed it up pretty well in my book. Jesus lived in the wilderness most of the time and was a carpenter by trade. So wouldn't he be driving a big 4 WD pickup. That would be the most common vehicle of a backwoods carpenter.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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Plywoody, I'm just saying they (the media) should use common sense on what is within reason and what is outragiously ridiculious. Things "DO" get sensored when it does affect the security of this country. After all the "FCC" is there for that reason. But the Media has to get its money somewhere to pay for its programming, so they look for crap stories to make their money and to get people talking.

 

[12Footer]

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Plywoody, I could not agree with you more. Censorship is the last step before tyrany.<br />I personally also feel the same way as SSMayfloat though. The timing of this assualt is very distracting, and counter-productive. I personally feel we ought to laugh at these terrorist operatives, hitch-up the boat, and go fishing!!!<br />And if the silly little witch that paid for these adds wants to blow her money on her beloved news media boyfriends, then she has that right.<br />What a waste of good outboard engine-money tho!!(ok,ok, I'll get the 4-stroker transom pig!!)

 

[Bondo]

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Trouble is the Media Sells Opinions AS Facts !!!<br /><br />You guys are Forgetting.....<br /> the Media IS the Liberal Left......<br /><br /> That's WHY the NRA can't even BUY airtime......

 

[plywoody]

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Aw, c'mon!<br /><br />Anyway, these arguments get so silly about imported oil and such!<br /><br />First of all, that we are dependent on foreign oil. While oil is so cheap, why not save ours and buy someone else's? Lest you think oil is not cheap, I recall in 1975, buying a brand new Toyota Corolla for $3,000, buying a brand new 15 hp Evinrude for $700, and paying $1 a gallon for gas. I'd say, at $1.35 or so a gallon, gas is pretty cheap in comparable dollars.<br /><br />If at some point in time, we want to reduce dependency on foreign oil, we do as Europe does, and levy a big tax on gas, and put the revenues into a workable transportation system. Let the people use their 4WD pickups and SUV's and whatever, and have them pay the tab for the improved transportation system, and reduced fuel consumption. Perhaps maybe Detroit would get busy with the fuel cell technology if it had a chance to pay for it self.<br /><br />The markets will determine usage of fuel and type of fuel used, and complaining about foreign oil is just plain silly. Be glad it's there. And thinking that somehow we should drill more here while the prices are low is just plain silly. Does anyone know the number of capped, non-producing wells here now that are waiting for the prices to go up? There are lots of them.

 

[DaleT]

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Over the next two weeks Detroit is hosting the annual International Autoshow. Today being the opening day I have not been yet but I have seen some press clippings and Ford has, not sure if it is just a concept or near production, introduced a new Hydrogen fueled vehicle. In addition GM has for a while had the EV-1 on the market. The onus for change from oil does not lay in the corporations. They do help to further sales of vehicles but ultimately it is up to the consumer to demand fuel effieciency or alternate fuels. <br /><br /> EV-1 website

 

[ob]

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Don't know where you guys were in 1975 , but I was paying about 48 cents a gallon for premium in 1975.

 

[plywoody]

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Good for you! Here in the northwest, we had rationing, gas lines, and close to $1.00 a gallon gas. It went over $1.00 a gallon by the end of the decade. Here, at least.<br /><br />BTW, I was over in Finland last year, and gas was something like $4.00 a gallon US. And they have a fabulous train system that everyone uses.<br /><br />And the fuel cell techology does indeed exist, and my point was it is not with the corporations, but with the marketplace, when it will be implemented. The other problem with fuel cell, and hydrogen fuel, is that it takes lots of energy to separate the hydrogen from the O2, and it makes absolutely no sense to use one fossil fuel (ie coal) to make hydrogen available. The only realistic way to make this hydrogen available commercially is with Nuclear power, IMO>

 

[roscoe]

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The fuel cell technology will become viable in a few years. The conversion from h2o to hydrogen gas is very simple, much like a plant does it. The only problem lies in an energy source to use to separate it out. <br /><br />Put this in the back of your mind, and see if I am right in a few years. The source will be wind power.<br /><br />It can be used when it blows, to power a hydrogen gas separater, which can then be stored for use when needed.<br /><br />Imagine this, a quiet non-polluting self contained power plant in every neighborhood. No more transmission lines, no power grid worries, fewer conventional power plant(eventually-none).

 

[ob]

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48 cents a gallon in 1975 wasn't any good for me but rather 1.00 a gallon was bad for you.Fact is is that the average "national" price for a gallon of gasoline in 1975 was 45-50 cents after the initial fuel embargo situation and the country as I recall was not real happy about paying that.I remember the gas lines well, and the prices were short term.We were paying $20 for block ice in 1970 in the wake of hurricane Celia on the gulf coast because of power outages and restricted food supply,however that $20 was not an accurate average price for a block of ice in 1970.While I totaly agree that we pay far less today for a gallon of fuel compared to most if not all countries,I am not willing to simply accept that we start paying more at the pump because of it.After all, it was western technology that provided the means that which third world countries are able to extract their resources for a profit and now it seems that profit is coming back to bite us on the ass.

 

[DaleT]

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PLywoody, I apologize I misinterpretted you're post. <br /><br />Obviously, being from Detroit, and thus heavily reliant on the auto-industry, I'm a little quick to the draw in it's defense.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Me myself think they ought to make a diesel outboard. OH just think about it. A power stroke Mercury.

 

[Trent]

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Spinner......Where ya been bud? Its already been done!<br /> 1961 Yamaha's model number P7K first "kerosene" outboard. It would run on diesel fuel also.

 

[boatingfool]

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The fact is Every time we pump gas into what ever we are pumping it into, money is going into the hands of our enemies.Our enemies and thier ties to money both come from the middle east , wich is where most of our oil comes from.<br />The problem is either we live our lives like we want to so they dont win and we continue to support them or we change our way of life in wich case they win.<br /><br />I am not an extemist but if you believe oil money is not going to our enemies you are nieve.

 

[12Footer]

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Of course. But are the commercials this woman made and aired, stating that whenever you run your Honda Civic or yota camry, you are suporting terroism?? NNNnnnoooooo! Just SUVs..Gas-guzeling demon SUVs from Satan!<br />Of course they burn more demon-gas than a civic, but then, the concern really is not the SUV only,as she would lead you to believe. She also wants to expound upon the evils of demon-oil and anyone who stands to profit from it's production or sale... Not just terrorists, but also,our mid-eastern allies who produce it, and our president and his administration--"oh lawdy!! He's from Texas! And he has ties to 'big-oil'!!". <br />But when it comes right down to it, what would happen if we curbed all oil-usage overnight (as if we could)?<br />This clown and her media operatives would rejoice at the downfall of civilization.<br />I laugh at her efforts!

 

[boatingfool]

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12Footer,<br /> I agree with you 100%.<br />It doesnt matter what you are pumping gas into . The gas pump doesnt care and niether does the enemy.<br />The fact is we all use it and to say one person is to blame over another is crap.<br />Unless these people promoting these commercials ride a bike everywhere , they have no room to talk.

 

[Moose_Miller]

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Dale - I looked over the website on the EV1, good link. My problem lies with the price. For $43,000.00 I can buy a '03 Suburban with all kinds of amentities...OOPS, I think I missed the point Call me Moose Hussein