Suzuki DT40 Problems

DrewR

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I have a 1992 model DT40 that has difficulty starting and pracically will not idle at all. I'll go into a little more detail here about exactelty what happens. <br /> As I stated, the engine is VERY difficult to get started. It takes a combination of using the electric starter (choked) and usually kicks over after about 5 minutes of effort with the pull rope. Somehow, the last time I took the engine to the mechanic, my manual choke switch came back disengaged, so that means that the engine is cranking un-choked...but only after a ton of effort. Also, to get it started, the warm-up lever on the control box has to be at almost full or completely full throttle. Once started and warmed up for a minute or so, the engine will run for +/- 5 minutes and then start to die. Unless I am there to throttle the gas, the engine will die. <br /> Now for the strange part. The aformentioned procedure occurs when I have the engine out of the water and am using "muffs" to supply water. Once I take the engine to the ramp and get it started and try to shift into forward or reverse @ idle the engine almost instantly dies. I have never crossed paths with a problem such as this before. <br /> When I called my mechanic his suggestions were as follows: 1. The engine could've been regularly started with starting fluid by the previous owner. If so, I will have to continue to start the engine with starting fluid. 2. Buy a hotter spark plug (than what is required by Suzuki) to assist the engine to function properly.<br />3. The starter is "weak" and needs to be replaced/re-worked. I don't doubt that this guy "might" be on the right track....but his suggestions just don't seem right. <br /> The engine has good compression and spark. On the top end, the engine runs great. It only has problems cranking and running at low RPM's. I inspected the cylinder heads. There is some build-up/residue on the cylinder heads but the cylinder walls look to be in good shape. Once primed the gas bulb stays tight, but not as stiff as when just primed. The "pee hole" is functioning properly and ejecting water at a normal rate. So does anybody have any ideas? What do I need to do to get this thing cranking easily and running smoothly w/o the aid of starting fluid and hotter spark plugs. Any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED.
 

jim dozier

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Re: Suzuki DT40 Problems

Step 1 delete mechanic and acquire a new one.<br />If the engine has good compression and good spark and runs well at speed the poor starting and idleing are probably due to dirty and/or misadjusted carbs. Any time an engine comes back from the mechanic with something important (manual choke) disconnected a light should go off in your head and you should start asking questions. To idle correctly the low speed and idle air orifices must be clean and set correctly. To start easily the engine must idle well AND the choke must be operating correctly.<br /><br />Either you or a new (better) mechanic needs to pull those carbs and do a thorough cleaning/rebuild with a focus on the idle orifices, reset the idle air screw to specs, and check to make sure the choke butterflies (electric and manual) are closing COMPLETELY when activated.
 

DrewR

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Re: Suzuki DT40 Problems

jjmd, <br /> First off, thanks for the reply. I definitely agree on tossing the mechanic. I knew when I called him to ask why the engine wasn't running correctly and he gave me the above described advice that I was getting no where with that guy. For obvious reasons, I haven't been back. Now then, I guess my only options at this point is to find another mechanic and drop more money into this thing or buy a repair manual and go from there. Unfortunately, my former mechanic disassembeled and rebuilt the carb so either an adjustment is off or the whole thing has been re-built incorrectly. Either way, I appreciate your insight. Would you happen to know the correct adjustments for the DT40?
 

jim dozier

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Re: Suzuki DT40 Problems

No the idle air adjustments and float settings may be different for each model. You need to know the manual specs before you start fiddling with it. While it's possible that there is something else wrong with the engine your description sounds a lot like a poorly tuned idle screw and/or a dirty carb. Just because the mechanic was in there doesn't mean he got it right. Get the manual, redo the carbs, check for air leaks, and while you're at it redo the fuel pump diaphragm. Someone else will probably chime in with some additional advice.
 

DrewR

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Re: Suzuki DT40 Problems

Great, I'll pick up the manual right away. Thanks for the help! By the way, I found out why the manual choke is not attached....they broke the connecting bolt off in the carb. Gotta love pride in fine morkmanship like that. Now off to buy a set of Easy Outs. :-(
 
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