LubeDude
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Re: Synthetics, another look
Your are really getting on my nerves Forktail, Im perfectly willing to say that the Cam II oil looks like a great oil. You seem to not want to acknowledge that I also recomend other oils too. If I had known about the Cam II I might have even recomended it also. Yes, I do know how the groups of oils are clasified! Ive been all over this subject befor on this forum, where were you then?? Quit treating me like an idiot, and I will start treating you with respect also!<br /><br />"Premium petroleum based group III's are so highly refined today, that they begin meeting the same base stock interchangability criteria (of saturates, sulfur, viscosity) as group IV PAO's. That's why some are classified as "synthetic". So the only thing that technically separates a group III from a group IV is how the base stock is refined."<br /><br />So, a group IV or V is still a better Base stock than a III! And I never said that a group III Base stock was a bad oil.<br /><br />I never said there wernt any 2 cycle outboard oils that were group IVs other than Amsoil, I only said I didnt know of any.<br /><br />Also I am perfectly aware of the different oils for different 2 Cycle applications, Thats why Amsoil has seen fit,(not that they are the only ones) to make four different 2 cycle oils!<br /><br />Picky, Picky, Picky, Get the He*L off my back!!! Ill answer no more of your posts! All you seem to want to do is in some way show the world you know more about oil than someone else. Thats not what we are here for!
Your are really getting on my nerves Forktail, Im perfectly willing to say that the Cam II oil looks like a great oil. You seem to not want to acknowledge that I also recomend other oils too. If I had known about the Cam II I might have even recomended it also. Yes, I do know how the groups of oils are clasified! Ive been all over this subject befor on this forum, where were you then?? Quit treating me like an idiot, and I will start treating you with respect also!<br /><br />"Premium petroleum based group III's are so highly refined today, that they begin meeting the same base stock interchangability criteria (of saturates, sulfur, viscosity) as group IV PAO's. That's why some are classified as "synthetic". So the only thing that technically separates a group III from a group IV is how the base stock is refined."<br /><br />So, a group IV or V is still a better Base stock than a III! And I never said that a group III Base stock was a bad oil.<br /><br />I never said there wernt any 2 cycle outboard oils that were group IVs other than Amsoil, I only said I didnt know of any.<br /><br />Also I am perfectly aware of the different oils for different 2 Cycle applications, Thats why Amsoil has seen fit,(not that they are the only ones) to make four different 2 cycle oils!<br /><br />Picky, Picky, Picky, Get the He*L off my back!!! Ill answer no more of your posts! All you seem to want to do is in some way show the world you know more about oil than someone else. Thats not what we are here for!
<br /><br />Look, you came on telling us how knowledgable you are about oils. "I am very knoledgable on oils" were your exact words. <br /><br />You support that comment by telling us how long you have been involved with oils. "I have been following them for 30+ years" were your exact words.<br /><br />You even said you consider oils a hobby of serious nature. "have been a serious hobbie of mine". <br /><br />Plus you market and sell Amsoil.<br /><br />So we should be able to consider you an expert. That's fine. We could use an oil expert here, as I'm just an average outboard owner.<br /><br />But the problem is you follow up your "expert" statements with what appears to be a lack of knowledge, experience, and subjectivity. Some of the comments you make are not representative of such "expertise". Bias is clearly present.<br /><br />Your comment about all other TC-W3 oils (that you know of) being of lesser quality and standard than Amsoil is a fine example. Pure hogwash.<br /><br />If you are into oils as much as you say, then you would be aware that there are many TC-W3 oils that do not use "lower group III base stocks". Their base stocks and additives are as equal, or superior, to Amsoil's. In fact I even know of a group V 2-stroke oil.<br /><br />You would've understood that oil grouping has to do with saturates, sulfur, viscosity, and blending interchangeability. Not how much "better" the oil is.<br /><br />And you would've been able to point out and explain what comments of mine were, what you claimed, untrue.<br /><br />Look, you came on here telling us how Amsoil is the "best oil in the world". It was you who gave excuses for it not being TC-W3 rated. And it was you who started this thread. It is not my intention to upset or humiliate you. I simply want you to explain yourself and back up what you will have us read. If you can't take that, then maybe you shouldn't start the discussion.<br /><br />Again, nothing personal LubeDude. You have a lot to offer.
