Tachometer not working

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I put my muffs on my gt150 and test ran it after some carb leak repairs and I noticed my tach is not working . 12 volts at pos & neg . What do I want to see for voltage on third terminal of tachometer?
 

Chris1956

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There should be an AC signal on the sender terminal of the tach. I would ohm out the signal wire from tach to voltage regulator, to make sure it is not shorted to ground.
 

Joe Reeves

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(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

NOTE: For the later models that DO NOT incorporate a wiring terminal strip, splicing into the "Yellow Wire" mentioned will be necessary.

Normally the Gray wire leading from the tachometer is attached at the terminal strip to another Gray wire which leads from the water cooled voltage regulator/rectifier...... remove the gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.

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Thanks joe I will go out and try to trouble shoot it . It's a 1991 so it does have a terminal strip. It did this last year and when I took it to the boat launch and drove it over to the marina it worked for the rest of the summer .
 

oldboat1

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Is the battery charging? The rectifier will be destroyed by reversing polarity, disconnecting battery while engine is running, placing the battery switch at the "off" position (even briefly) while the engine is running. And as Joe says, the tach won't work if the rectifier is damaged.
 
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No the battery is not charging now , it is only 11.6 volts when motor running . Found gray wires on terminal strip but there are two joined together coming from boat and one going to rectifier . I am assuming that the flat rectangular thing on top back of motor under flywheel is the rectifier. Pic's attached ,I have not tried moving gray wire to yellow /gray because I don't know which of the two go to tachometer, also the neighbor women next door didn't like being smoked out up on her deck .😂 So I had to shut it off for today. Would it hurt to hook up both wires to the yellow/ gray ?
 

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I guess now I can start testing the rectifier it self , I guess you just test from ground on rectifier to each of the wires going to rectifier?
 

Flipsy

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From what I’ve seen about testing rectifiers, connect one lead to the rectifier base. In the ohm setting test each wire (each yellow wire and the red). Reverse leads and test again. You should get a reading one way, and not the other. If it reads both ways it’s faulty.
 

dingbat

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If your not charging and the tach isn’t working there is no need to continue troubleshooting.

Both symptoms have a common denominator, the rectifier.

Time for a new rectifier /voltage regulator
 
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The rectifier is no good it gives me a reading on all wires in both directions. Could a short to ground cause this with engine not running , Ido remember blowing main fuse for fuse panel when testing fuses .
 

dingbat

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The rectifier is no good it gives me a reading on all wires in both directions. Could a short to ground cause this with engine not running , Ido remember blowing main fuse for fuse panel when testing fuses .
No.

Mine took a dump trolling one afternoon for no reason whatsoever. Sometimes they just fail
 

dingbat

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Thanks dingbat I will just buy another rectifier and hope nothing else goes wrong for the rest of the year .😉
Lots a heat dissipation involved in the conversion from AC to DC and the regulation of the output. My rectifier/regulator is water cooled.
 
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I put a new water cooled rectifier in, motor works better and starts better,tachometer works and battery is charging . I checked plug wires two no good i will replace them all tomorrow .
 
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