Take this job and shove it!

[waterinthefuel]

I have a question about giving a two weeks notice. No, I'm not quitting my job, just asking a question. My old boss called me one day several years ago and said don't come in to work the next day, we hired a replacement for you, out of the blue. If he can do that, why should I be required or even asked to give a two weeks notice when I quit? If your boss can fire you on the spot, then to me, its only fair for you to also be able to quit on the spot.

It equally screws both of you when the other pulls that stunt, so why is it not fair?

 

[RubberFrog]

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You need a reference. Your employer does not.

 

[mikeandronda]

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Well I guess it would all depend on if you want a good reference or not. A good reference is good gold as far as Im concerned. My 19 yr old boy is learning all about that the hard way........

 

[POINTER94]

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A. Life was never intended to be fair.

B. You can quit without notice at any time. Just leave. Nothing keeps anyone at their job. Two weeks is typically ediquit.

C. A reference is only as good as the person giving it. An absolutely terrible reference tells as much about the employer as it does about you.

D. You need to evaluate honestly why you want to leave or why someone might ask you to leave. Knowing yourself is key. If the principal is important enough, walking is a sign of charactor, not failure.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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I have a question about giving a two weeks notice. No, I'm not quitting my job, just asking a question. My old boss called me one day several years ago and said don't come in to work the next day, we hired a replacement for you, out of the blue. If he can do that, why should I be required or even asked to give a two weeks notice when I quit? If your boss can fire you on the spot, then to me, its only fair for you to also be able to quit on the spot.

It equally screws both of you when the other pulls that stunt, so why is it not fair?

Life is not fair WITF! Depends on the type of job. Most employers these days refuse to give much information to new prospective employers, but sometimes with the proper release they will. If a prospective employer that was pondering hiring you gets wind that you just left a job without proper notice yer chance of landin' the next job would be much more difficult.

The brokerage or investment business is one of those types of jobs that you don't give notice to anyone (but yer wife). Those who invest may already know this from their own experience. I left EF Hutton in late 1987 to join Dean Witter. After I photocopied all me books, (on me own dime BTW), and had the new firm have all me business cards and transfer forms preprinted, I walked into the branch managers' office, (a very nice guy that I still know and like and I think the feelin' is mutual), at a time of me choosin' late in the afternoon on Friday when the rest of the brokers have gone home, walked into his office and shook his hand, and went to me new firm and dialed non stop to 9:00 PM that night, 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM the following day, n' 8:00 AM Monday mornin' untill I reached every client I wanted to take with me, to get the jump on me former co-workers, who in turn try to keep me old clients at the firm I left.

Bottom line: It depends on the nature of the employment relationship. When in doubt give proper notice and be prepared for anything. All Stock Brokers or Financial Advisors who change firms have a similar challange as I related above. Some are foolish enough to mouth off or tell a 'secret' to a soon to be former co-worker prior to bein' ready to rock n' roll. Not very smart, as the transition is much worse if yer not prepared. JR

 

[WillyBWright]

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I have never found an employer that's been given two weeks notice to be any better of a reference than one where you just walked off. But it does bode better for you by giving two weeks to subsequent employers because it shows them a degree of respect and responsibility. But I totally agree with your premise and told at least one employer that in the past. My job is seasonal by nature and I tell them that I expect fair advance notice of a layoff just as they can expect fair notice of my leaving. One employer I gave one month notice.

 

[kenimpzoom]

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I just changed jobs and my new boss would have been POed if I didnt give two weeks notice to old boss.

No law requires two weeks, unless you signed a contract.

Ken

 

[mikeandronda]

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Its about repect......I have employed people and if someone gives me notice even a week I would give them a good reference..........Someone quits on the spot, I guess it would depend on the circumstances.

 

[POINTER94]

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I just changed jobs as well. The new employer was impressed that I insisted that I give 3 weeks notice to my old boss. Even if it threw off their timetable just a bit.

 

[roscoe]

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I have seen it 3 ways.

At some places, the moment you give notice, they will ask you to leave, typically for security or trade secret reasons.

I have given 2 weeks notice when leaving most jobs, even worked an additional 3 weeks (both jobs) to help the former employer hire and train my replacement.

My current employer, gives no references to former employees, they won't even confirm employment dates. Supervisors and co-workers do give references, but must do it off the company premises.

They insisted I start my current job upon 2 days notice, so I ended up working both jobs for 2.5 weeks.

But when I leave this employer, well...... what's good for the goose !

They'll be lucky to get 2 hours notice.

 

[deejaycee_2000]

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Here in SA, it is against the law to fire anyone (our screwed up politics) unless you have like 3 written warnings and caught stealing etc. but what they do nowadays here, is make you re-apply for your job if you are slacking ....... luckily the company I work for, if you go work for their direct opposition, you get marched out the building straight away and still get your full months salary .....

 

[Bob_VT]

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In Vermont employers do not have to honor any notice and can demand you leave as soon as you give notice........

References are a thing of the past..... thank the lawyers for that one....

In the end that type of treatment of good personnel tends to catch up with the employer......... Probably not a good place to work anyway.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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To my understanding (at least with the people I work for now) a two week notice will give you the opportunity to return to the company if you choose to at a later date. Leave without notice, and you won't have any chance in getting any position back once you leave.

Also they must do the written notice, suspension, and then termination sequence to get people terminated. Violence, theft, and no call no show is reason for immediate termination.

 

[muskyone]

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it is against the law to give a bad refrence

 

[tommays]

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It is just a generaly bad idea to burn bridges

You would be supprised who knows who in life and the things they talk about down at the club



Tommays

 

[RubberFrog]

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it is against the law to give a bad refrence

watchoo talkin bout willis?

 

[rwise]

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it is against the law to give a bad refrence

Well not exactly, the employer can be sued for a GOOD or BAD referance, the only thing HR will tell is how long you worked there period, (from-to) they will not say you were a good or bad worker, they will not say you came in late every day, they will not say you came to work every day etc etc etc. It aint happinin period.

Roun here most employers will fire you on the spot for giving a 2 week (or other time period) notice! I have walked, and I have given notice, did not make a damn to the next employer!

All ya'll have fun with this!

EDIT: if you are in a position that you could be ask to give a ref, then I would sugest you go to your HR/legal dept. and check with them for policy.

 

[gonefishie]

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Rwise and muskyone are right, they can only confirm your employment and dates and nothing else. Can't ask and can't tell. Walk or not is all depends on your guts feeling. It would be really funny if you go in there and pulls a Jim Brewer in Half Baked "all I wanna know is, who's comin with me man? Yeahhh." Or the one that I would like to do someday "f..you, f...you, f...you, you're cool, f...you, I'm outta here B".

 

[qqqp]

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Nobody really cares, if you are good you are allways good at work. But if you were a poor worker you will most likely contiue as a low performing worker.

 

[muskyone]

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i would give 2 weeks you never know you may need to go back there if things don,t work out elsewere leave on good terms. then if all else fails thay may hire you back if you lose new job