Taking her out this weekend..This forum has me scared to death, though.

jmorgan87

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Re: Taking her out this weekend..This forum has me scared to death, though.

In your older video, the round pipe that the exaust is coming out of is supposed to be connected to another pipe with the bellows, so that the exaust comes out of the lower unit either though the prop, or behind it.


That makes sense! I saw that, and niavely thought it was how it was suppose to be. I always been told 'cobalts had a distinct sound' on the lake. After reading a bit, it seems Cobalts with 'Captains call' have a distinct sound on the lake, and probably a big block as well....hah

So the biggest concern be stopping, and rush of water go shooting back up the hole and water intrusion on the motor?
 

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Someone in a post above, who probably knows alot more about I/O's than I do, said that there are exaust shutters that prevent water intrusion. I would worry more about the exaust coming out there causing the prop to ventilate, but then again that is just me thinking, as I have 0 experience with I/O's. You may be able to put the bellows on without pulling the drive, if you can I would since they are relitively cheap.
 

lonemust

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it does look like the exhaust bellows is off the outdrive. then again it might be the style that does that and when the outdrive is down in running postion it is up against the outdrive.. just not to sure about it.. jmorgan you shouldnt start it up with the outdrive that high up, it can tear up the u-joints from what i have read.. as for pulling it out to look for leaks.. why not just look in the bildge area while in the water, if there is a leak you will see the water in there and if its bad enough you might see where it is coming from while the boat is on the water.. easier to find it that way.. and if it does take on water and you can not see where it is coming from then pull it out of the water and watch the hull for leaks.. but put your outdrive down and see if the bellows slides up on the outdrive..
 

jmorgan87

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I know.. I know.. I read that too, and the later videos have the drive down.

I'll take a look to see if there is something the drive lines up with when it's all the way down. From a distance it looks too, but i've never had it down and seen if there is a big gap under there, or it actually lines up with something.


Can't wait to get her out this weekend. Just trying to source a prop, found a 19 pitch on CL.. SS quicksilver for $150.. seems best deal so far.. Still got some calls to make.

Worst case, bass pro or the nearest boat shop will be making a sale friday afternoon.. This boat is going to meet the lake this weekend!

As for checking bellows, I do plan to look around while in the water. My thought with pulling was incase there was a leak elsewhere that I can't easily see. I figure on the trailer + incline+ drain plug out. If water comes out after just being floated, i know i have issues... ofcourse a waterfall of water coming from the bellows will be obvious moments after floating the boat..let's hope that doesn't happen.
 

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Jmorgan, it looks like you have an exhaust boot like I have. It is an option from the bellows that cuts down on back pressure from what I have read. Where the exhaust is coming out check to make sure it is rubber. If it is you are golden. When the drive is all the way in the boot mates up to the outdrive.

As far as being worried, so was I. I launched my 1973 Reinell this spring after it had sat for 8 years. I did replace the u-joint bellows and the shift cable bellows though because they were both ripped. All in all it was a very successful maiden voyage. So far this summer I have put over 400 miles on her and 2 fishing tournaments with only a couple of hiccups along the way. I hope yours is the same.
 

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I hope all goes well, but I have to laugh at the title of this thread. I always wondered if a person was about to get a boat and read this forum first would they still buy one? LOL all you see is troubles and rotten boats and a lot of engine work........sorry but it is a tad true.......good luck mate and stay safe.
 

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I haven't viewed the video, but I'm assuming this is a Merc drive and he has the "exhaust tube" instead of the bellows. The tube is a more modern approach as the exhaust bellows on many boats ends up being pulled off one side or the other eventually anyway. The only sound difference for the most part is at idle, it will sound pretty much identical to the boat with the standard bellows. Some people run with them completely off (no bellows or exhaust tube) and don't really have any ill effects. The exhaust won't cause the prop to cavitate, and the majority of the exhaust still exists throught the prop anyway.
 

25thmustang

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Re: Taking her out this weekend..This forum has me scared to death, though.

Mine sat for 5 years before I dropped her in the water. Not only that, but our boats are launched off a rail road car. So we load it up, then release the brake and gravity brings you down the railroad track into the river... The swim platform is usually 12-18" below the water before enough of the boat is wet and it starts to float off. Not only that, but imagine riding in the boat...

Talk about nerves!!!

With that said, take her out, make sure to not just bring the family and coolers. Do a shake down run with a trusted friend or two. Be prepared if something goes wrong, and try to relax a little.
 

haulnazz15

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I'd say bring one or two buddies and a large assortment of tools. Water and snacks as well in case you get stranded for any length of time. Water bailing device other than the bilge pump. New fire extinguisher as well.
 

ryanr623

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All you get is the horror stories. Very rarely does someone post "went out today, nothing bad happened"....but in reality it happens much more often than a boat sinking. In all my years on boats, i've only been stranded one time. And I've never owned one newer than a 1991.

That being said. I would just get tow insurance for peace of mind. BoatUS is great and even service the inland lakes. I think it ran me $50 for the entire season. Well worth it.
 

jmorgan87

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My title was meant to be a bit sarcastic, but I agree this place definitely shows you what can really go wrong when owning a boat. As well, all the information to fix whatever nightmare you've encountered. a great resource.

The scariest thing for me, is seeing the number of newer boats with structural issues. Just can't believe early 2000s or mid 90s boats with completely rotted stringers, etc. I'm almost afraid to ever pull back the carpet on my 79, ignorance is bliss - right?:p..kidding, i'd actually like to do do that over winter and if needed replace any issues.

Appreciate the advice. I will say, each thing i've checked on the boat has built confidence about it's condition(Hope I didn't jinx myself) and previous owner's attention to it. Started out with a boat that we assumed had a bad motor(since owner couldn't start it for us 4 years ago, and gave a weak excuse why). She cranked, sounded strong. No water in oil. Dropped out drive, no water in gear oil. Impeller wasn't in 10000000x pieces. No scrapes under the boat, hell even the majority of the dash switches work once i wired up a key, including the wiper lol. Each project I tackle to 'inspect' the boat i'm thinking 'man if I pull this off and find a show stopper i'm going to be so pissed!', fortunately it's been quite the opposite.

I'm hopeful of a good test, this weekend is really more about leaks and that everything checks out. I have lots left to do. The trim rams bleed down, throttle cables stiffer than i'd like, interior will be a work in progress, continue catching the boat up on maint(gimble/ujoint/bellows), etc.. All of these things i'm willing to tackle, however I know a boat can perform night and day different on muffs vs water. I'd feel ALOT better dumping this time and money once the boat floats, doesn't take on water, and planes under it's own power... and when I get back to the shore I don't find any nasty surprises like watery oil, or gear lube... If I can accomplish those things, i'm all for putting in the time to completely restoring this boat. I'm not looking for a shortcut or to cut corners, I want to do this all right. I feel i've gotten it to a point where I should be able to safely test it in the water.. Though I really do want to take a look at the gimble and ujoint first, and might Friday before I take it out... those two things and leaks(bellows) are the two biggest concerns for me, since i haven't been able to confidently inspect/check them.

Growing up we went through 2 different boats used by the family, and I had an old bass boat I took out on my own in Highschool/College that came in through our business. We only once had a real issue, impeller went out on a yamaha I/O, burnted hydraulic cables to out drive.. this was on a hurricane deck boat. We limped back to shore though. Other than that never had any issues.
 

jmorgan87

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Well, took it out!

Few things:
1.) I did take on some water. Right after putting in, I saw about 1"(or less) in the very back of the bulge by the drain plug. Waited a while, never saw it accumalate or raise? Suppose it could of been already in the boat(I put drain plug in prior to driving to lake, and the launch ramp is a massive hill since the lake is waay waay waay waay up still. Only launch ramp left.
2.) Shift cable issues. You'll see us launch in the video. From my perspective I kept slowly increasing throttle wondering why we weren't going forward(prop issues, engine, etc), then it took off.. and ran 'great'. When I came back in I put it in neutral, and after that I had no foward, just reverse and neutral.

Once out on the lake, I got on it a couple times. She did stumble if I went full full throttle, but recouped. We hit about 40 and were still climbing, then i'd back off. Handled the water great. I am also stuck with only full trim down, since the trim rams are bleeding down, so overall happy with speed!

THANK YOU iboats, I had read enough and knew how the shift cable mechanism worked. This was the difference between paddling to shore and going back under power. I got back to the engine and initially tried to adjust it, to no avail. Finally I pulled the cable and bam we were into reverse, doing nice donuts in the lake :).. I then went the other way, got into neutral, then into forward.. coasted into the dock.

About a 1-2 gallon came out(maybe less, hard to gauge)... If it wasn't already in the boat(even though the amount didn't appear to change while out).. could it be from this(the fins outside the boat) ?
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The other side has the fins going the other way, when 'getting on it' will water be thrown into the vents, and into the bilge? Should these be going the other way(like the other side)?


enjoy the burn out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6jjbuPACfU
 

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Glad you made out pretty well on the first outing. I wanted to post before you took it out for the first time just to bust you a little & say "Oh just grow a pair already, splash it & gun it you'll be fine". No really, sounds like you took all the right steps before hitting the water. I felt the same way the first time I took my boat out, I had no idea what too expect from it as I bought it after just looking at it in a storage area & the guy telling me "it ran great last year". Anyway, sounds like you only have a few little bugs to work out & you'll be good for the rest of the year.
 
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nice i like that boat. i like the trihulls very stable have no complaint about trihulls yet. what do you think of the tri hull? also what size is the boat? i really like the boat. great first run best way to see if any thing is wrong. don't worry about the water unless you see a lot of water don't worry about and inch or less i always have and inch of water from rain water or such.
 

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Glad you made out pretty well on the first outing. I wanted to post before you took it out for the first time just to bust you a little & say "Oh just grow a pair already, splash it & gun it you'll be fine". No really, sounds like you took all the right steps before hitting the water. I felt the same way the first time I took my boat out, I had no idea what too expect from it as I bought it after just looking at it in a storage area & the guy telling me "it ran great last year". Anyway, sounds like you only have a few little bugs to work out & you'll be good for the rest of the year.

If it was just me, that's my normal attitude...the family though, would of flipped on any 'looks like a big issue', situation even if reality it was small.

Hoping to fix the linkage issue today, and take her back out.
 

jmorgan87

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nice i like that boat. i like the trihulls very stable have no complaint about trihulls yet. what do you think of the tri hull? also what size is the boat? i really like the boat. great first run best way to see if any thing is wrong. don't worry about the water unless you see a lot of water don't worry about and inch or less i always have and inch of water from rain water or such.

It's an 18', felt great in the water. Really happy how it looks in the water too, told my family it's the 'nicest $400 boat on the lake!' :)
 

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Glad it all turned out good!! Keep us posted!
 

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Tilt it way up on the trailer and get it bone dry then the next time you launch get down under the back with a flashlight to find the leak.
Leaks tend to show up more at rest than when you're moving forward.
 

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About a 1-2 gallon came out(maybe less, hard to gauge)... If it wasn't already in the boat(even though the amount didn't appear to change while out).. could it be from this(the fins outside the boat) ?

The other side has the fins going the other way, when 'getting on it' will water be thrown into the vents, and into the bilge? Should these be going the other way(like the other side)
The louvers are supposed to be that way, to provide natural ventilation of the engine compartment. While you are are moving forward, air is pushed into the louver on one side and sucked out the other.
 
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