Tell us about life before GPS systems?

BugsBunnyBoater

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It seems like everybody who wants a gps system can afford one. But what about the years before we all had them. I see so many post about how u need a gps to find your hot spots again and again.
I did see a post on a site about how a boater would use a certain radio station to find his way back in.
 

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

We used to take off chasing hounds with a PB&J and a pistol. Now I got so much cr*p strapped to me I look like a Cabelas manequin. But I couldn't live without a GPS anymore.
 

redone4x4

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

we had a Loran, it was the hottest thing at the time. It showed your coordinates, then you plotted yourself on the chart. I still remember how to do it. Then, you could alternate/plot your compass heading from there taking into account the compass deviation and such. there was a formula for it. that was on the ocean though, i still dont have a gps for the lakes yet.
 

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My dad new the area of water we boated in so well that all he had needed was a compass to go by and his watch and about the speed we where running and he could get us to all the main fishing spots the big charter boats would fish in, If that area was a hot spot from the days past. And I use to think to myself how does he know where the good spots are with out pulling out the chart, Then sure enough a little time later here comes all the big charter fishing boats pulling up within are area. We would just beat them there because we where a little faster then them was all. I can only remember him pulling out the charts 2 times to find some other spots he wanted to try just because. He is a good boater out there that is for sure, And [LOL] I think if I gave him a gps then he might get lost out there:D J/K:p
 

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Boat teck: I absolutly agree that a person may get lost with a GPS. I am not a big water person so I don't use charts but I make myself take out topo's when I'm out just to practice orienting by map. It is truly a lost art and if your batteries go dead, one that you need.
 

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Boat teck: I absolutly agree that a person may get lost with a GPS. I am not a big water person so I don't use charts but I make myself take out topo's when I'm out just to practice orienting by map. It is truly a lost art and if your batteries go dead, one that you need.
And I'm sure if you know your luck the batteries will go dead right at dark:eek::D
 

Huron Angler

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Well let's see...before GPS...we used to troll around islands in thick morning fog thinking it was the mainland...that'll throw you for a loop:D

Good times for sure;)

Now life is more boring and our location is always known:eek:
 

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

Life before GPS involved use of LORAN. Then as now, dead reckoning was something that any serious mariner still needed to know how to do.



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When growing up my family used to cruise from NJ to the islands off Cape Cod with a compass, charts, a timer, Eldridge, & RDF (for poor visibility times). Why do you need more if you know what you are doing? - It's to bad the C.G. discontinued the radio becons, pick up 2 - 3 becons on the RDF plot their reciprical bearings away from the transmitters on the chart & you know right where you were.
 

Chris1956

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In The Beginning, Man stayed close to the coast. After that a Sextant was invented, which used the angle of the sun to determine Latitude. Columbus had a crude Sextant. He also had a compass. he just did not know what was out there, or how far land was. His voyage was about a month, which is a lot further than anyone had gone before.

The next big step was the invention of the accurate clock. Longitude was determined by taking speed readings at particular intervals. The readings were done by counting the knots in a line, that went thru your hands in a given time(hence Knots is a term for speed in nautical miles). Longitude was determined by averaging your speed over the total time of your voyage. All of this was considered "Dead Reckoning", where the first word was what you were if you were inaccurate.

This was used until LORAN was invented. LORAN helped you find lat/long, near the coasts and it's accuracy with charts, dead reckoning and a compass was pretty good. You sail coastally using LORAN, set a best guess course across the ocean using clocks, compasses and sextants, and figure our where you were exactly via LORAN or shoreline features, when you got close.

Now GPS is available anywhere in the world to show your position to 3 meters.
 

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

before GPS there was Grand Paw Sense!

If solar radioactive wind storms wiped out all satelite comunication and fried our electronics where would you be?
 

high'n'dry

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

It seems like everybody who wants a gps system can afford one. But what about the years before we all had them. I see so many post about how u need a gps to find your hot spots again and again.
I did see a post on a site about how a boater would use a certain radio station to find his way back in.

There was Loran, there were ADF (automatic direction finders), the big boys had and still do inertial guidance systems, there were compasses and charts and watches.

There was also a method of using landmarks and ranges or triangulation using a sighting compass etc.

Dead reckoning.
 

nitsuj

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

Hey I have a King Loran on my boat! It came with it. I couldn't use it if you held a gun to my head. As I understand it, they're only accurate to within a quarter of a mile anyhow, so I'm not sure you could find your exact fishing sot with one. I thought about leaving mine installed just for giggles. With that giant 8' antenna and screen that looks like it's from the Millennium Falcon, it really makes me look like I know what I'd doing. But I ended up removing the system from the boat. Maybe I'll ebay it someday. Might make a good paperweight.

When I boat, I can always see land, so I haven't needed to buy a purpose built GPS yet. I use my car GPS just because my boat doesn't have a working speedometer. It's kind of funny. It just shows the little car icon sitting in the middle of the lake or river and keeps flashing "Get on the road as soon as possible".
 

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

My first GPS took 8-AA batteries, and would only last about 6hrs. I don't want to remember how much that one cost.

My topo and lake maps are always kept handy with a compass.
 

WAVENBYE2

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

There was also a method of using landmarks and ranges or triangulation using a sighting compass etc.

Dead reckoning.

I know it's differant for me on lakes and rivers, I use mile markers and navigation charts and a (G)ood (P)air of (S)pot glasses (binoculars), To be honest with you, I was taught that way from seasoned Captains when I was Mate and they taught me that was the best way incase of electronic failer, That way you will always know where your at. I don't want a GPS, I personally enjoy using the charts, mile markers and binoculars (which has other uses too;)) 100's of miles on the lake and finding differant places using navigation is fun for me, to me that is boating and doing it with the use of your own navigational skills. It just wouldn't be the same for me to use a GPS.
 

lowkee

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

But what about the years before we all had them.

Well, there were dinosaurs and giant birds, then a meteor hit the earth.. nothing much happened between then and the first GPS onboard a boat. But life after that has been awesome!
 

SeanT

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Re: Tell us about life before GPS systems?

My boat manual has instructions for calibrating my speedometer...by running a standard length slalom course. Near as I can tell, you run the course in a straight line and time yourself end to end. I guess you mark your RPM at that speed too. Then, based on your time, you accelerate to that RPM and adjust your speedos.

At least, that's how I _think_ it's done. It wasn't actually very clear, and it just listed the course times and what MPH each time was.

Very strange. I just steal my dad's hand held GPS when I want to test/calibrate. Maybe I'll get one for my birthday.
 
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