Test wheel

Fl_Richard

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I've been considering purchasing a test wheel (prop) for occasional use in diagnosing my boats engine problems. (The list seems to be growing) <br /><br />My question is one is counter rotating. Will I need a set of test wheels? I would think so but I havent seen any counter rotational wheels.<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Richard
 

Dhadley

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Re: Test wheel

Now that you mention it I've not seen a part number for the cr test wheel but I've never looked either. I'll look when I go to the marina next week.<br /><br />I'm sure someone else has run into this before.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: Test wheel

Interesting question,but I beleive test wheels move water both forward and backward to create a load on the engine.We test in forward,because full throttle position is available.<br /><br />DHP
 

ledgefinder

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Re: Test wheel

Why couldn't you run the counter-rotating motor with the shift lever in reverse, so that the test wheel spun in it's normal direction?
 

Fl_Richard

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Re: Test wheel

All the pictures of them I've seen APPEAR to show the vanes all pointing in one direction.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: Test wheel

I am not sure.Can you achieve Wide Open Throttle in reverse ?Will the remote control and your throttle linkage allow it ?Then probably either gear will work.<br /><br />BUT the test wheel is made for troubleshooting problems under way,not in reverse.Actually,if the motor runs smooth,but you can't achieve test rpm,or exceed it,you still have a problem.<br /><br />Have you priced a test wheel yet ?<br /><br />DHP<br /><br />don't forget,my posts are based on how I think a testwheel works.We are waiting for Dhadley to check.
 

Fl_Richard

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Re: Test wheel

e-bay averages at $80.00. One is affordable, two NOT. Has anyone here ever used one? <br /><br />By the pictures it looks like they must produce some thrust.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: Test wheel

I don't have the prices in front of me,but I recall wheels costing $300,$400 and more.You put them on in place of the prop,tank test,and if you don't get the right rpm,you have a problem.<br /><br />I saw some on Ebay recently,but they were mostly drive pin,1960,1970 motors.<br /><br />The wheels have mass,that's where the power goes.If they had thrust the test tank would be empty,or you'd be on the other side of the lake.<br /><br />DHP
 

ledgefinder

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Re: Test wheel

I have one that I use on V4s. An 85/100hp is supposed to pull at least 4800rpm on it. Pre-1986 115s will pull around 5400 rpm. I run them with the boat on the trailer, at the ramp. I really like them - lets you wring out the motor while you listen to it, check the cooling, set the WOT timing, etc.. I got mine off eBay for around $40.<br /><br />The idea behind a test prop is to produce drag with as little thrust as possible, so when you run in a tank you don't immediately throw all the water out. You can cut down a standard prop & get the motor to run 5500 rpm, but the thrust would be higher. I plan to try that sometime, and will post the diameter to cut it down to. <br /><br />I guess the problem with running the counter-rotator in reverse might be that the control box wouldn't let you hit WOT in reverse. Assuming the control box did let you up the throttle so that the ignition was fully advanced, you could get the rest just by pulling on the carb linkage. It'd be a little hairy getting that close to a WOT V6.<br /><br />Even the V4s make a racket on the test prop, at WOT with the cover & airbox off. The wail is incredible. I test at a deserted resevoir on the CT/MA border, where I typically am not bothering other boaters/fishermen. Last Spring, I finished up running a 115 on the ramp at WOT, shut down, and 30 seconds later a bald eagle swooped down & nailed a fish maybe 100 yards behind the boat. I guess I wasn't bothering him much, or maybe the sound stunned the fish.<br /><br />If you've got an old prop around, I'd try just cutting that down. Make the cuts the same on each blade, so that the prop stays reasonably in hyraulic balance.
 
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