The religion 'o peace

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Karl Marx said that. You have to a least know the names of your heros.

and it was "OPIATE of the masses", so it includes all opium derivatves -- that means satanism, islam, and yes, even GLOBAL WARMING. :)
 

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CJY, your bashing of the Iraqi people is without merit. You have been drinking too much MSM koolaid. When was the last time the US vote was over 60% of registered voters? When was the last time US voters took their lives in their hands by voting at all? They may not understand what we mean by "freedom", but they sure as hell understand what we mean by power to rule themselves.

The sort of patience I refer to is patience to wear your adversary out so that HE quits. It worked with Quanah, Red Cloud, Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse. It will work with UBL.
 

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Karl Marx said that. You have to at least know the names of your hero's.

Oh is that true? You mean to say that his name is not Charlie? Thank you for correcting me.
Maybe I should tell you the truth. He was not really my buddy.He died a long time before I was born.
 

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He77, we can't even secure our own borders, how are we going to secure someone elses.


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We most certainly CAN secure our borders! But when the President calls the Minute Men vigilantes, and the senate and congress are fighting to give amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens, and there is no effort by the federal government to enforce federal labor laws regarding hiring illegals, there is a bigger problem here. It;s the bigger problem that must identified and dealt with before border security can effectively imposed.

Iraq is no different. American soldiers are called torturers, and compared to Nazi SS by our own politicians, while the sub-human scum that videos tapes the decapitations of their innocent victims are called "Freedom Fighters" by the same politicians! See, there is bigger problem here; winning in Iraq is possible only we can deal with these symptoms of defeat. Why does the media see fit to air video of snipers shooting soldiers in Iraq, but they see America can' handle see the 9-11 jumpers? There are many facets to the push for American which are not yet clearly defined, identified, exposed and destroyed before victory can be more than a remote possibility.

I mean, you tell me how the he77 America can come from a decade long depression and beat Germany, Italy and Japan in 4 years, but be unable to secure a border with Mexico. Does that very notion sound completely ridiculous to you? It should.

Ask yourself these questions:
Q: Why did the US send troops half way around the globe to Korea to fight the spread of Communism, and then turn right around and break our promises to Batista and back the rise of a Communist dictator on an island 90 miles of our coast?

Q: After Castro seized control of Cuba and his communist intentions and ties to Russia were well known in the State department, why did the US at the very last moment and without any warning, fail to give the support we had promised to the patriots during the Bay of Pigs, allowing Castro to slaughter them and remain in control of Cuba- and expand communist influence in Central and South America???

Q: And why after doing the above unspeakable horrors to the poor people of Cuba, did the US send troops half way around the globe to fight communism in South Viet Nam??

And everybody knows what happened in Nam until the US pulled out. But how much news coverage was given to South Viet Nam after democrats pulled the plug on the support that America promised the south when the troops were pulled out? When the US bailed on South Viet Nam and the communists swept South Viet Nam, Laos and Cambodia, million of innocent people were butchered. Why is it that liberal cares as much about their slaughter as for Mary Jo Kopechne?

I am not blaming Liberals or Democrats for Americas failure to secure our southern border, or for the fact that our military has been denied permission to WIN this war! Both side are equally complicit at this point -but WHY??? What the he77 is going on in Washington? For anyone to opine that America, the most economically and militarily powerful force on Earth, is not capable of winning a war against Islamofascists (whether the conflict is waged in the middle east or the mid-west) is absolutely ludicrous! Yet we have senior Senators stating the the war is lost during press conferences, and no-one has the sense to say "wait just a cotton picking minute, just how the he77 is that even possible???" I can answer that, it's because this war is being administered in Washington by politicians rather than by generals on the battlefield. It is the same thing that happened in Korea. MacArthur would have won that war if he had been allowed to. The same thing happened in Nam, and now it's happening again.

The fact that this happening is without question, but everyone liberal and conservative should ask themselves WHY this happening again. Why do we elect politicians who can shed American blood and not allow the slightest possibility for victory?
 

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CJY, your bashing of the Iraqi people is without merit. You have been drinking too much MSM koolaid. When was the last time the US vote was over 60% of registered voters? When was the last time US voters took their lives in their hands by voting at all? They may not understand what we mean by "freedom", but they sure as hell understand what we mean by power to rule themselves.

The sort of patience I refer to is patience to wear your adversary out so that HE quits. It worked with Quanah, Red Cloud, Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse. It will work with UBL.

My bashing is not intended to be toward Iraqi people. They know no different. They are ignorant of America and Freedom and what it means to be free. They have never known freedom, only Hussein's description of it. My bashing has so much more to do with Washington and their failure to see things are so wrong in Iraq.



Many here blame the press and the libs for all that is going wrong in Iraq. I simply say it's BS. The media may influence the people, but if they influence war tactics and stragedy, what a poor bunch of leaders we have heading up this fiasco. Personally, I don't think they have an answer for what is going on in Iraq.

The republicans are taking a beating over this. Don't you think if they had an answer, they would have used it rather than continue to take the beating by the media and the people of the US? They would not risk losing the WH in 2008 over being PC during war. I just don't buy it. They already lost congress over incompetance and they continue to lose the WH every day there is no progress in Iraq.

Right now, a pullout would surely cost the Repubs the WH. Why? Because every soldier that fought / died in this war would be in vain and most Americans would believe their deaths would have been at the hands of incompetant leadership.

The easy scapegoat is the media and libs. Afterall, republicans are not going to blame poor strategy and tactics as that would be blaiming themselves and most of that blame would fall on the shoulders of W. As far as I am concerned, blaiming the media and libs is a huge load of BS. If a politician had the kahoneys to send us and keep us in Iraq, then they better be damn well ready to not be PC and finish the job if that is the intent. I just don't believe they know what the answer is, because if they did, this would have ended by now.

RIght now, the dems are saying they were wrong for sending us in while most repubs defend their decisions to send us in. Whomever it may be that is keeping us there(dem or repub) needs to step up, make some decisions regarding allowing troups to do their jobs so we can then get out. If being PC is causing our leaders to waiver, then we need to get out now.

I believe "finish" the job means something more than "patiently" wait for the suicide bombers to grow tired of killing Americans. They won't get tired of it. Evidently JB, you are happy to wait them out, I am not if that is our strategy.

SW, I think we probably agree much more than thought at first glance. Though we may differ a bit on the reasons for incompetant leadership.
 

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quote CJY " The easy scapegoat is the media and libs."

What an absolute load of crap! If the media would report the SUCCESSES as well as the failures, I'd buy that statement. But it is nothing but the failures that the MSM and the libs report on. Report the WHOLE truths, not just the failures. There are many success stories that aren't reported, why is that CJY? All you spew and parrot is typical sheepal lib crap.
 

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Plainsman, I recommend you try to speak your mind more and don't let the guy off so easy...LOL
 

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quote CJY " The easy scapegoat is the media and libs."

What an absolute load of crap! If the media would report the SUCCESSES as well as the failures, I'd buy that statement. But it is nothing but the failures that the MSM and the libs report on. Report the WHOLE truths, not just the failures. There are many success stories that aren't reported, why is that CJY? All you spew and parrot is typical sheepal lib crap.


Are the libs and media responsible for 5 years of incompetant leadership? 5 years and Baghdad has yet to be secure. Did the media make that FACT up? Get it, FACT.....Baghdad is not secure after 5 years. Right, it's the media's fault. It is not the media's fault. Are you telling me Baghdad is secure? Are you telling me Baghdad should not be secure after 5 years and it was expected this way? Are you telling me everything is going as planned? That we expected all of the border crossings, all of the suicide bombers , all the roadside bombs? Are you telling me Iraq has been a success?

Go ahead, tell me the part the media / libs have made up. This has been a dismal failure from the get go. One success story compared to every hundred suicide bombers and/or roadside bombs is not success and the media cannot fix that, regardless of what they report.

Tell me of the numerous success stories that makes you feel like Iraq has been a success to this point......I'm listening. You must surely know of many successes the media has failed to report. Or......are you assuming there must be some, but the media being as they are chose not to mention them. I watch FOX as well, and boy, their airwaves are just littered with all of the Iraq successes. :rolleyes:

For all of the successes, Baghdad remains unsecure after 5 years of war. THE MEDIA DID NOT MAKE THAT UP. I bet if Washington answered honestly, they would say that was not in the plans.

Go ahead Plainsman, I will wait for all the success stories. This should be entertaining.
 

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Are the libs and media responsible for 5 years of incompetant leadership? 5 years and Baghdad has yet to be secure. Did the media make that FACT up? Get it, FACT.....Baghdad is not secure after 5 years. Right, it's the media's fault. It is not the media's fault. Are you telling me Baghdad is secure? Are you telling me Baghdad should not be secure after 5 years and it was expected this way? Are you telling me everything is going as planned? That we expected all of the border crossings, all of the suicide bombers , all the roadside bombs? Are you telling me Iraq has been a success?
Is South LA Secure? Would you walk down the streets there at night? I think not. How about Washington DC at night?
I am saying that MOST of Iraq IS secure. Do you dispute that ?
It has been a success to a degree. If the jackasses in Congress would stop trying to give a surrender date and stop calling the TERRORISTS freedom fighters and OUR troops rapists and murderers and let the military do it's job, it would be. You left wing nut jobs need to put the pipe down for a few days.
No war ever goes as planned. Show me one war that has.

And once again, like you, a lot of Americans actually believe what the MSM says. Instead of bolstering up what the troops have done, they either ignore it or turn it against them.

Go ahead, tell me the part the media / libs have made up. This has been a dismal failure from the get go. One success story compared to every hundred suicide bombers and/or roadside bombs is not success and the media cannot fix that, regardless of what they report.

And if you don't get the OBVIOUS fact that if we take your SURRENDER stance, that roadside bombings will get here. I know I'm just a paranoid, war mongering kinda guy. But at least I look forward to what will happen if we SURRENDER, like you want us to.
Tell me of the numerous success stories that makes you feel like Iraq has been a success to this point......I'm listening. You must surely know of many successes the media has failed to report. Or......are you assuming there must be some, but the media being as they are chose not to mention them. I watch FOX as well, and boy, their airwaves are just littered with all of the Iraq successes. :rolleyes:

How many attacks take place in the north controlled by the Kurds? How many in the south where the British are? Yes Baghdad is a very violent place, but you can't possibly say that the whole country is a loss because Baghdad is not secure.

For all of the successes, Baghdad remains unsecure after 5 years of war. THE MEDIA DID NOT MAKE THAT UP. I bet if Washington answered honestly, they would say that was not in the plans.

I see that you think all of Iraq includes nothing but Baghdad. Once again, by your analogy, the USA is not a secure place. MS-13, bloods, crips ring a bell for ya?

Go ahead Plainsman, I will wait for all the success stories. This should be entertaining.
I hope that is entertainment for ya. Here, have a double shot
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Do Democrats want to win in Iraq? The superficial answer is, of course, yes. Scratch a little deeper. Do Democrats really want to win in Iraq? What benefit could they derive if we lost in Iraq?
A loss would humiliate the Bush administration and the Republican party. In fact, if they played it to perfection, they could get significant bumps in 2008. As important as humiliating Republicans is in the short term, the big win for Democrats in an Iraqi loss is another decades-long period of Carteresque self-loathing.
Why? Because Victims Vote Democrat! Now there's a bumper sticker for you.
A Democratic politician's worst enemy is a confident, entrepreneurial, self-starting voter. Shatter the pride and patriotism of enough folks and Democrats will win back some Congressional seats, Gubernatorial mansions, and maybe, just maybe, the White House.
Do Democrats want to lose in Iraq? The answer is a calculated yes, and the reason is political gain. Disgusting.

Remember to vote democrat, it's easier than than thinking!

 

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CJY, I don't believe the following were ingredients in your MSM's koolaid. I've yet to see you acknowledge any of the following, or really acknowledge the troops have done anything right.

Plainsman has an excellent point. Look at effin New Orleans. It has a higher murder rate than most of Iraq does!! Why not admit the troops are doing a good job? Why not admit the plan is working?

Lets say 90 percent of Iraq is under control. If you made a 90 percent on a test, would you say that you failed it?

Oh yea, Plainsman, you can't leave these successes out:

More reconstruction projects in Sadr City started this week, including the $13 million electrical distribution project for sectors one through eight. When complete, an estimated 128,000 people will have a reliable source of electricity. The project includes installation of power lines, 3,040 power poles, 80 transformers, 2,400 street lights, and power connections to individual homes, complete with meters.

� Construction started on the $3.8 million Al Rayash Electricity Substation project in Al Daur District of Salah Ad Din Province, located between Tikrit and Bayji. The project, which is expected to be completed in early December, will provide reliable service to 50,000 Iraqi homes and small businesses. An electric distribution and street lighting project in Daquq was completed on Aug. 17, providing new overhead distribution lines and street lighting in the community.

� Approximately two million people will benefit from the Baghdad trunk sewer line, which was completed this week. Workers cleaned and repaired the Baghdad trunk sewer line and its associated manholes and pumping stations. The $17.48 million project restored principal sewage collection elements in the Adhamiya, Sadr City and 9-Nissan districts of Baghdad, and will provide for the intended sewer flows to the Rustamiya wastewater treatment plant.

� More than 600 children will return to renovated or rebuilt schools in Maysan Province when school starts this fall. This week, renovation on the Al-Eethnar Mud School was completed, and the Al Eethar Mud School was replaced at a cost of $87,000, benefiting 500 students who attend classes there.

� Children in Dobak Tappak village of Al Tamim Province received much-needed school supplies, clothing and toys from the Nahrain Foundation, a non-governmental organization that focuses on providing proper nutrition, decent clothing and medical supplies to Iraqi women and children. The foundation received its supplies as part of a joint effort between American donations and a Coalition forces-run program known as "Operation Provide School Supplies, which accepts donations from private citizens and corporations in the U.S.

� In Basrah, construction is complete on phase one of the $865,000 Basrah courthouse project. This five-phase project is expected to be entirely complete in October of 2005. This main courthouse in Basrah, expected to hold a number of high profile trials, continues to operate during construction. Iraqi subcontractors are working on the project, and employing an average of 70 local Iraqi workers daily.

� Iraqi security forces benefited from reconstruction projects this week as well. A patrol station in the Karkh district of Baghdad Province was completed, as was a $390,300 border-post project on the Saudi Arabian border. A division headquarters building for the Iraqi Army in Salah Ad Din Province was also completed this week. The $7 million project includes a single-story building with a concrete roof and interior office space to accommodate the unit. Additionally, a $2 million firing range in Taji was completed this week.

� To accommodate additional detainees, a new prison project was started in Khan Bani Saad, a mountainous municipality in the Baquba District of Diyala Province. The $75 million project will house up to 3,600 inmates. The entire site is approximately 550,000 square meters, which includes an educational center, medical facilities and administration buildings. The project will employ approximately 1,000 Iraqi workers during construction.

� In another move that highlights the increasing turnover of security responsibilities to Iraqi forces, generals from Iraqi and Coalition forces joined local tribal leaders at a ceremony where Forward Operating Base Dagger in Tikrit, one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces, was officially handed over to the 4th Iraqi Army Division this week.

� Iraqi Security Forces continued training this week. In Taji, Iraqi soldiers completed a Strategic Infrastructure Battalion Train-the-Trainer course. The 90 graduates will go on to serve as instructors at an Iraqi Army training base. A class of future IA non-commissioned officers graduated from their primary leadership development course on Aug. 15 in Tikrit. Iraqi Army unit training also included combat lifesaving, staff training, computer skills and weapons training.

� This week, the 1st Iraqi Army Brigade succeeded at implementing the first Non-commissioned Officer Academy in the country. Iraqi soldiers from the most recent class were the last group to be instructed by the U.S. Soldiers who had developed the training. During Saddam Hussein's regime, an NCO corps did not exist in the Iraqi Army. The class will continue after the U.S. instructors leave, and will be taught by NCOs from the 1st IA who assisted earlier courses.

� Baghdad police continued to demonstrate their capabilities this week. Iraqi Police Service officers in the New Baghdad District conducted a variety of operations including raids involving over 450 officers. Police confiscated 30 AK-47 rifles, two hand guns, and one machine gun during the raids.

� They also arrested 30 suspected insurgents, three of whom were targeted in the raids. In addition, police at the Al Khanssa Police Station in Baghdad captured a kidnapper involved in the abduction of a local physician, whose family paid a ransom to have the victim released. Following the arrest, police officers recovered the doctor's vehicle as well as the ransom money paid by his family.

� Iraqi Army soldiers found a weapons cache under a vehicle in Rawah this week. The cache contained two light machine guns and 3000 rounds of ammunition, nine AK-47 rifles and 500 rounds of ammunition, one NATO machine gun and 200 rounds of ammunition, four concussion grenades, one fragmentary grenade without fuses, and various other ammunition.

� Based on two separate tips from Iraqis, Coalition forces discovered weapons caches that contained rocket-propelled grenades and two launchers, 16 mortar rounds and a launcher, and five boxes of anti-aircraft ammunition hidden in northwest Baghdad.

� Another tip led Coalition forces to a large cache of artillery shells in the early hours of Aug. 16. The shells were apparently intended for use as improvised explosive devices. The 25 to 30 individual rounds, located inside a building within Al Anbar Province, were destroyed after security forces confirmed there was no one in the building.

� After a local Iraqi identified his neighbors as insurgents, Iraqi Army soldiers and Coalition forces conducted a joint cordon and search operation in northwest Fallujah and detained two suspects.

� Iraqi Security Forces killed terrorist Abu Zubair, also known as Mohammed Salah Sultan, in an ambush in the northern city of Mosul this week. Zubair, who was wearing a suicide vest when he was killed, was a known member of Al Qaeda in Iraq and a lieutenant in Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab Zarqawi's terrorist operations in Mosul. He was being sought for his involvement in a July suicide bombing attack of a police station in Mosul that killed five Iraqi police officers. He was also suspected of resourcing and facilitating suicide bomber attacks against Coalition, Iraqi Security Forces and Iraqi citizens throughout the country.

Oh yea, GOOD JOB TROOPS! YOU GUYS ARE KICKING BUTT!!
 

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"Is South LA Secure? Would you walk down the streets there at night? I think not. How about Washington DC at night?
I am saying that MOST of Iraq IS secure. Do you dispute that ?
It has been a success to a degree. If the jackasses in Congress would stop trying to give a surrender date and stop calling the TERRORISTS freedom fighters and OUR troops rapists and murderers and let the military do it's job, it would be. You left wing nut jobs need to put the pipe down for a few days.
No war ever goes as planned. Show me one war that has."


Where has any member of congress ever called terrorists "freedom fighters," or the "troops" as a whole, rapists or murderers?


As far as piping down, yea right. Good republican though, try to take the first amendment away from those you don't want to hear from. A fine American you are. You do know I have rights just like yours, don't you?


I would address the rest of your post but I would be asking the same questions due to the fact that you answered questions with questions. Or, you did not answer them at all. I thought you would have numerous success stories for me to read.

As far as sheeple are concerned...interesting. The republicans speak of successes too, just like you. Yet, they also fail to pinpoint any that reduce daily violence or bring the US closer to victory.
 

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"Lets say 90 percent of Iraq is under control. If you made a 90 percent on a test, would you say that you failed it?"


What, is that some random number that sounded good so you pulled it out? BTW, even though it is absolutely untrue, how about a percentage of populated areas in Iraq that is stable. You do know that 90% of Iraq is barren.


"I've yet to see you acknowledge any of the following, or really acknowledge the troops have done anything right."


Then you need to pay closer attention, and not just to this thread. Furthermore, this discussion has nothing to do with troops. Troops carry out orders they are given. They are not responsible for tactics or strategy. The failure of this war to this point in time has to do with tactics and strategizing, neither of which are the fault of the soldiers on the ground. Thanks for keeping up. :rolleyes:
 

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Actually, I was being very conservative, I think it's something like 97 percent of the country is considered stable, at least as stable as 97 percent of ours.

Oh yea, most of our country is barren farmland to. Ever been to Kansas?
 

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Actually, I was being very conservative, I think it's something like 97 percent of the country is considered stable, at least as stable as 97 percent of ours.

Oh yea, most of our country is barren farmland to. Ever been to Kansas?



"something like 97%"


Any sources for that number? If not, it's nothing but a number with no meaning.

Farmland and Kansas and as stable as ours? Are you trying to make some sort of idiotic, worse yet, favorable or equal comparison of Iraq to the US/Kansas? What a completely ignorant comparison to make. Just How many US soldiers have died fighting insurgents in Kansas over the, oh I don't know, let's say, HISTORY OF THE USA?

Did you give any thought at all to the ignorance you show in making such a statement? I guess that's what happens when you start yapping for the sake of yapping while having nothing to support your arguement.

And I thought you understood Iraq to be a war zone. You do know there is a war going on in Iraq....right? I thought you said you read a book once? Read it again. If Iraq is siminlar to Kansas and/or the US, then why do suicide bombings continue, why does W want to send more troops over to Iraq, why does he want more money for Iraq? Funny thing though, he never made any mention of stabilizing Kansas, or DC, or LA or the need to send more troops to those places.

I have nothing left to say except, incredible.
 

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"Just How many US soldiers have died fighting insurgents in Kansas over the, oh I don't know, let's say, HISTORY OF THE USA? "

Seems to me thousands of US Soldiers died fighting in Kansas and all over the plains of the USA. Of course the insurgents were called indians. Now maybe you need to read a book or two CJY about US history. Put the bong down for a day and let the haze clear away.
Ignorance is bliss in your life CJY. I have nothing left to say.
 

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"Just How many US soldiers have died fighting insurgents in Kansas over the, oh I don't know, let's say, HISTORY OF THE USA? "

Seems to me thousands of US Soldiers died fighting in Kansas and all over the plains of the USA. Of course the insurgents were called indians. Now maybe you need to read a book or two CJY about US history. Put the bong down for a day and let the haze clear away.
Ignorance is bliss in your life CJY. I have nothing left to say.



Talk about bong use and blissful ignorance. First of all, if you check a book or two, the Europeans were the insurgents. I wonder if that's why many people refer to the "Indians" as Native Americans. Do you know what "Native" means? Do you know what the word "insurgent" means? "Indians" did not come from India to fight the European settlers. For the record, they were already here. Do you know where Europe is? Furthermore, I believe the reasons for the fight were a bit different as the reasons for fighting in Iraq. Check a book.


Just another rediculously ignorant comparison of violence in the US and Iraq. I wonder if the families of those soldiers fighting and dying in Iraq would agree with you. I wonder if Daniel Pearl would still be alive had he only been reporting in Kansas rather than Iraq? I wonder if those soldiers that made the ultimate sacrifice would still be alive had they stayed in the US. I believe the answers to those questions are very, very, very obvious. Based on your comparisons, you must believe their fates would have been similar to their fates while in Iraq. Somehow though, you overlook the very, very, very obvious and see the obsurd.



As far as you having nothing more to say, well, you have said little. And, the things you have said amount to little more than a slap to the face of those soldiers fighting and dying in Iraq.


I find it interesting that when you don't have a rebuttal for a point made by someone you view as being on the other side of the fence, you place blame on kool-aid or bong use. Very immature, very predictable. Hmmm, a make-believe, imaginary "kool aid" and illegal substances are your allies in this discussion as well as so many other discussion you engage in, how nice. As I said earlier, you have said little, and when you do open your mouth, you speak ungreatfully and ignorantly of the sacrifices made by those fighting in Iraq. How patriotic of you.




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Talk about bong use and blissful ignorance. First of all, if you check a book or two, the Europeans were the insurgents.
So let me see if I can understand you. If the Europeans were the insurgents, because they came to another country now called America, then are you now our calling our troops insurgents because they are the ones that went to another country and are fighting there?

I wonder if that's why many people refer to the "Indians" as Native Americans. Do you know what "Native" means?

You can be PC all you want. I have yet to meet an indian who is offended by the word.
And Yes I know what Native means.


Do you know what the word "insurgent" means?

A person who revolts against civil authority or an established government


"Indians" did not come from India to fight the European settlers. For the record, they were already here.

Wow aren't you the scholar!

Do you know where Europe is? Furthermore, I believe the reasons for the fight were a bit different as the reasons for fighting in Iraq. Check a book.

Yes an no. The indians and the insurgents both wanted us out of their countries.

Just another rediculously ignorant comparison of violence in the US and Iraq.

You asked the question ""Just How many US soldiers have died fighting insurgents in Kansas over the, oh I don't know, let's say, HISTORY OF THE USA? "


I wonder if the families of those soldiers fighting and dying in Iraq would agree with you. I wonder if Daniel Pearl would still be alive had he only been reporting in Kansas rather than Iraq? I wonder if those soldiers that made the ultimate sacrifice would still be alive had they stayed in the US.

Kind of like your doing, huh? They ARE the brave ones that protect the weak and spineless like someone here in this thread.;)


I believe the answers to those questions are very, very, very obvious. Based on your comparisons, you must believe their fates would have been similar to their fates while in Iraq. Somehow though, you overlook the very, very, very obvious and see the obsurd.



As far as you having nothing more to say, well, you have said little. And, the things you have said amount to little more than a slap to the face of those soldiers fighting and dying in Iraq.


I find it interesting that when you don't have a rebuttal for a point made by someone you view as being on the other side of the fence, you place blame on kool-aid or bong use. Very immature, very predictable. Hmmm, a make-believe, imaginary "kool aid" and illegal substances are your allies in this discussion as well as so many other discussion you engage in, how nice.

Truth hurt?


As I said earlier, you have said little, and when you do open your mouth, you speak ungreatfully and ignorantly of the sacrifices made by those fighting in Iraq. How patriotic of you.

What would you know of sacrifice for your country? I did 8 years active duty Army and was in the first Gulf war. So don't talk to me about being ignorant to the sacrifices of the troops. I lived in the desert, the heat, the tents and ate the sand. I saw friends die.

What have you done for this country? Besides sit behind a monitor and complain.
 
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