thermostat nightmares

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1983 johnson 140 was running hot.. hot enough to ring alarm with the muffs on in about 4 to 6 minutes..so i took thermostats out put it back toghter without stats and ran fine with no alarms going off.they were looking pretty nasty all full of salt. no im looking for a clean looking picture of the new install.this motor is new to me and i dont have a service manuel yet. any links other than brp parts would be great.also would it be wise to take off that bubble back to gain a little room? very tight in there any tipswould be great too.thanks for the help. tags.
 

HighTrim

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Re: thermostat nightmares

Im not really sure what type of link you are looking for???

BTW, I would put in new thermostats, do not leave them out.
 

Benny1963

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Re: thermostat nightmares

hi how sre you doing
.there were a few post with a diagram from
i believe joe reeves or ezeke on that syle of thermos
search old post and you will find a bunch of info good luck
bennyb
 

Solittle

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Re: thermostat nightmares

I assume that you are fussing about the difficulty in getting those buggers in and out. The manual will help but it does not give the tips. Use the search function to get tips - I have written a couple as I have a pair 1987 1.6 L crossflow v4 bubblebacks.

You do not have to change out the bubble back and will loose power if you do. You do need to drop the pan a tad to get access from below to the lowere to t-stat cover bolts using a 7/16" box wrench. A long 1.4" drive with a universal will help helps with the upper cover bolt and the pan bolts. Again use the search as my tips are too long to repeat every time this comes up and others have some good tips that I haden't thought of. One is to punch two holes in the pan opposit the two lower tstat cover bolts. I run in salt water so do not want to punch any holes in the pan but if I ran in fresh I would. Another tip is to fasten all the parts together with tie wraps when you start reassembly. The tips are there - find them.
 

aclmvh

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Re: thermostat nightmares

Don?t know if anyone has tried this for testing thermostats, but it worked for me.

For those like me who have the ?bubble back? cross-flow V4 (mine is a Johnny ?98 115 SPL) who suspect they may have faulty thermostats, the manual suggests removing the Tstats and putting them in a pan of heating water to test them?.but as we know, removing the Tstats from these engines just aint that simple and can be risky (they are located in the exhaust housing adapter under the exhaust housing on the aft side of the engine, below the lip of the lower engine cowling?hard to get to, bolts can break, etc?.). Here?s how I tested mine in place.

When closed, the Tstats stop water from exiting the cylinder head water jackets and flowing out of the engine. So you should disconnect the cooling hoses from each cylinder head cover but leave them attached to the Tstat cover (both sides), and rotate them so they are both pointing up. Of course if you pour tap water into the hoses, the thermostat housing and the hoses will fill up to the top and the water will stay there because the Tstats remain closed?..so instead, heat some water on the stove to the upper range of the thermostat?s opening temp using a cooking thermometer or a laser thermometer (my Tstats are supposed to be open by 136-144F) . Pour the heated water into the tops of one or both hoses until they are full?..if your thermostats are good, the water will drain through (because the Tstats open). If they are bad, they either won?t open (water won?t drain) or they?ll open at too high a temp (after repeated testing) and should be replaced.

Using this method allowed me to test the thermostats sufficiently so I could rule them out as a problem with my cooling system (my water pump was worn and was not cooling at slow engine speeds but was fine at higher speeds).

Hope this helps someone out there.
 
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