tilt trim problem

batmaster22

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I have a 1985 johnson 185 horse v-6 i can't get the tilt to go up or down the motor comes on and you can hear it, but it will not move! I am new to this this is the first boat i have bought so like always i try to do all my own work. if any one can help me i would apprciate it
 

ob

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Re: tilt trim problem

batmaster22,Is the engine presently in the up or down position?Possibly just low on oil if leak is present or system has air in it from non-use.
 

almost retired again

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Re: tilt trim problem

Hi Batmaster22,<br />There is a manual release valve on the starboard transom bracket, it might be open, check that. It only takes a flat tip screwdriver. let us know someone will come up with the answer.<br />Good Luck
 

ob

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Re: tilt trim problem

batmaster , Is motor resting on trailering bracket in up position or stuck in up?Trying to determine without looking if tilt bushings are froze,motor drive is stripped,or as almost retired again suggests ,manual screw is backed off not allowing hydraulic to actuate t/t unit.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: tilt trim problem

BatMaster.... If the engine has been trailered without having both of the trim rams pulled in, or trailered without even having the engine being supported by the trailering support, it is possible for the PTT to encounter a hydraulic lock up. The slight up and down motion, when trailering allows over 1700 psi of oil pressure to build up on the wrong side of the oil pump. Since the oil pump cannot exceed that 1700 psi, the unit is effectively hydraulically locked into position (the elec motor runs and does nothing).<br /><br />The proper method for trailering is to have the engine in a full tilt position and resting on the trailering support bracket, then have both trim rams pulled in to a point where the engine makes a jerking motion. At this point, immediately take your finger off of the PTT trim switch. Now, quickly and sharply, tap the PTT up button. This removes the vast majority of down hydraulic pressure but at the same time, the engine is solidly locked into position and cannot rock up and down.<br /><br />(The Cure)<br /><br />Have the engine in the up position and supported so that it cannot fall. Look straight at the PTT assy.... you will see what looks like a large slotted screw, but which is in fact a check valve. Remove that valve and what you find inside which is a shuttle valve, and a spring on each end of that shuttle valve.<br /><br />After you've removed those items, look straight inside of that chamber. You'll be looking at the reverse side of another check valve. Look at the hole in the backside of the valve you removed. You will need a punch that will fit inside of that hole.<br /><br />Now, place the punch inside of the hole in that check valve that is still in the unit, and tap it rather sharply with a hammer. It will take quite a rap but the idea is to unseat the valve to release the hydraulic pressure. Watch your eyes as when you do release the pressure, it will have a tendency to spray out somewhat.<br /><br />After releasing the pressure, reassemble the shuttle valve, springs, and outer check valve. Fill the oil reservoir with PTT fluid, having the engine in the extreme full tilt position. That's it.
 

batmaster22

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Re: tilt trim problem

Thanks for the help it was a hydralic lock and fixed that and everything works great
 
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