Tiny boat performance help

Texasmark

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Well I had a 10' Lowe (brand) Lake John for a lotta years. Gave it to the crew (as a thank you as they needed one)nm that built my shop when I moved out of town to the country....Muskogee, Ok. folks and great workers....... The Lake John was wider and had deeper sides than normal Johns of 10'. I built a rack over my P/U at the time and I could go to the water, working alone, slide the boat off, launch it, install the engine and gear and be on my way.......I had a ton....a ton of fun with that boat.

After a rain, when fresh water was leaking into the local lakes, I'd get up before the crack of dawn, get ready, go out and work my trot-lines for Channel or Blue cats, and then come home shower and go to my professional job....afternoons were just the opposite... Then on weekend nights when the new water was coming into the lake, I would go to the tributaries after work, working trotline for cats, or with a bucket full of minnows have a blast with Crappie (white Perch). I had a 1975 era new Merc. 7 1/2 on it and it planed out like a champ and ran like it meant it. Zero problems with any of the things discussed here.
Geez what a wonderful time of life to have a good paying job, have great health, have lots of water nearby, and the facilities to enjoy that......geez, I really miss my earlier life............
 
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kalebsheridan

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I have an 8-foot pram with a 7.5 HP outboard . . . similar situation with planing.

Weight shift will help, but you may want to make some static trim tabs out of marine HDPE board (starboard) and stick them on the transom.
I was curious about that. How would I design such a thing? Would bending some aluminum plate work?
 

kalebsheridan

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What do you mean "transom has some negative angle"? If the top of the transom tilts back slightly, that's normal. That tilt would be beneficial to any tilt pin adjustment. If it's toward the boat, most unusual, then you will certainly need to move the tilt pin farther out.....maybe all the way to get the thrust angle to bring the bow up.
Yeah the top of the transom sticks out farther than the bottom. I'll keep playing with trim and see what I can manage.
 

redneck joe

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Ted will answer better than me but if you go more than hull it will a.ways nose you down so if once on plane you don't need nose dow then stick with same as hull. That essentially gives you a longer boat.
 

tpenfield

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Even or only a slight downward angle would be all that I would do . . . Too much angle will tend to slow the boat down more than desired
 

kalebsheridan

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Update after lots of farting around. Adding weight forward helps a lot, but I recently made a no-drill compression plate for my 5 hp. Boat has much better hole shot, and I don't need to shift my weight much to get out of the hole. Needs a little adjustment still, I had to raise my motor 2 inches. I can send a photo of the plate if anyone is curious.
 

kalebsheridan

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Here's a test fit after modifying it. I'll probably trim back the edges and vertical fins a bit for less drag. I think the downward fins are only necessary to add rigidity to the glass and funnel water around the prop.5683.jpg5684.jpg
 

Mc Tool

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Looks similar to my "Permatrim ", NZ made out of 5mm aluminium plate .
There are some here who 💩💩 them but Im liking mine , I have had one on all my boats . They def give you a bit of lift and generally the motor answers to trim adjustments better .
As you can see the peeps who make them dont have near as much forward of the prop as you do . I think by law of the lever the closer to the transom the less effect it has ....but hey ...give it a whirl 😁IMG_20260819_171754.jpg
 
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