to heat or not to heat????

[captain spike]

Re: to heat or not to heat????

der,thanks dd!do you think reguler orings would work?im just wondering cause i got a good oring supply and wanted to put her back together tonight without having to wait.what do you think?....thankyou

 

[ddbyrd3]

Re: to heat or not to heat????

Did you have O rings on the allen head bolt you pulled out of your bearing housing....<br /><br />If so, I dont see why not, I have my 4 o-rings and I dont see or feel any dirrerence in them...<br /><br />Just make sure you get all of the carbon build up out of the cavity prior to re-installation of the bearing housing..<br /><br />Let me know what you use to remove it cause I have to re-install mine this weekend....

 

[Dhadley]

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Not at all dd -- but boy was that a trip down memory lane! Oh man!<br /><br />Then there was the guy who stuck his carrier back in upside down. "Just changed the seals and now it wont start! Piece of junk!" Hummm....loosen the bolts and spin it 1/2 turn so the exhaust is actually open. Fired right up. <br /><br />Cap'n, I dont know about standard O rings. Id bet itll work if they are the right size and material. Dont forget, it gets pretty hot in there.

 

[ddbyrd3]

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[captain spike]

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dd,i have the other bolts in mine but i didnt notice orings on them when pulled,ill have to look inside to see if there still in the holes?all i used was a steering wheel puller with 2 12" threaded rods put the prop washer on so not to damage the threads,applied some good pressure sprayed wd40 every chance i could since yesterday ,went home at lunch today gave the puller another twist and pop its ready to fall out thank god...he must be a boater.. dhadley thats what i thought ill just have to finish pulling them out and take a look.thanks you guys i really appreiciate all your help.<br />'

 

[Dhadley]

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If it came out that easy you dont need an adult beverage, you deserve one!

 

[ddbyrd3]

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I am trully envious of the simplicity of the removal process.... I think I invented new 4 letter words while removing mine.....<br /><br />Good job CS.......<br /><br />Now about those 4 O rings????????????????????

 

[captain spike]

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dhadley,4:36pm i will have a beverage or 2,dd hopefully the boating gods will shine on you for all your helpfull insite.those orings......i dont know ill have to wait till i get home and take a look maybe ill get lucky and can use "reguler ones"if not ill use the part#dhadley gave for the non allen type and have to order them...quick story..needed an oring for my streetbike went to order one from kawasaki, $90 i said sh*t it looks just like a homedepot one went and got it .79 cents!!!7 years later not a leak!!!thats why i was wondering if it needed to be marine...dd,when it didnt come out right away,i to invented a few four letter words!!thanks you guys ill keep ya posted on how everything works you guys rock!<br /> ***1971 18'winner 1969 115jonny***<br /> "THURSDAY"

 

[red boat]

Re: to heat or not to heat????

Hey guys, I have a question. The plate that those 4 bolts screw into has one additional hole right between two of the bolt holes. I heard that that hole must be on the bottom before reassembly. true or false??

 

[ddbyrd3]

Re: to heat or not to heat????

No Idea....... I am not planning on removing that plate. Hopefully DHadley can respond to this

 

[Dhadley]

Re: to heat or not to heat????

I'm not sure why that hole is there other than to confuse us. It has nothing to do with alignment. We've always done that by putting 2 threaded rods or long bolts (with no heads) in the ring and slide the bearing carrier back in. Then start 2 of the bolts, remove the studs / rods and install the other 2 bolts.

 

[captain spike]

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hi guys im back....pulled the carrier out last night found my leaking culprit....a dryed destroyed oring grrrrrrr and also....the grove where the oring sits in has pieces missing!!!!!something cause it to break.no pieces inside so i think someone changed something inside at one time and jest put it back together half assed.looking right now for a new one or a used one any suggestions?also it was very clean inside the lu no rust or dirt or anything out of the norm so hopefully i can get this piece ....also found the 4 orings they are recessed in the head of the bolts and one of them was almost riped in two.ill keep ya posted and thanks for all the help......<br /> ***1971 18'winner 1969 115 jonny***<br /> ***THURSDAY***

 

[ddbyrd3]

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Good and bad news there CS.... The part you need can be found at the attached link. Reference the part number and check around. Definatly check iboats as well.....<br /><br /> http://www.ishopmarine.com/ishop/js...~A0000022~M0017145~M0017146~M0017148~C0248375 <br /><br />Item number 28, a mere $200.00 item....

 

[Dhadley]

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Cap'n, where are the pieces missing from the O ring groove? If they're missing toward the inside we may still be OK. If the side toward the prop has pieces missing you may want to consider replacing it. I've seen some with a small piece missing on the gear side and it didnt leak.<br /><br />Obviously to do it correctly and take no chances we'd want the groove in tact.

 

[captain spike]

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hi guys,of course its the side towards the propalready looking around for a new or used,dd thanks for the links. im on the phone rite now and a guy an half our away has a box of them so it looks like were ok.dhadley,what would cause the pieces to break off?ive never hit anything or ran it with out water.wierd......any ways thanks so much dd,dhadley i really apprciate all your help and input....until the next problem im out..............captn spike<br /> ***1971 18'winner 1969 115 jonny***<br /> ***THURSDAY***

 

[ddbyrd3]

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DHadley, what is the best way to clean out the carbon build up in the prop housing cavity prior to re-installation.<br /><br />Obviously you would want to remove as much as possible, and should the large O ring be coated in a grease prior to installing?????

 

[captain spike]

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good question dd,inside my housing believe it or not there is no build up what so ever i was actually suprised,and happy.i would think a little marine grease wouldnt hurt anything.maybe spray a little deepcreep in there or on a rag and give it a good cleaning that way.

 

[captain spike]

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went to the boat-bone yard last night, guy says "i got a box of them" get there after closing time guy looks like he was working hard all day,give him the broken bearing carrier he heads out the back says not only do i got one i got a new one,hmmm a new one is $200,ask him how much?he says $70!i say i love you!complete with bearings and seals!yahooooputting it back together today for the weekend!if not tonight!story is...local guy sets me up big time for now on he gets first call.thanks all for all the help its been fun ....kinda ..does any one know of any tricks or hints putting this back together?any help or input is always great....have a good 4TH .......bob from ashburham marine....your the man thanks.......<br /> ***1971 18'winner 1969 115 jonny***<br /> ***THURSDAY***

 

[Dhadley]

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The cleaning of that area is critical. I stuff rags in there so as to keep as much junk out as possible. If crud gets in that pump it wont shift right.<br /><br />Yes, a little grease is very helpful when sliding the carrier back in. The hardest part is getting the screws lined up with the retainer ring. Check my post a couple back about how we line them up. pretty simple really.<br /><br />Obviuosly gasket sealer on the 4 small O rings too.

 

[captain spike]

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thanks dhadley we did the same ,stuffing of the rags after a dry clean to get any of the big crud.thank for the info on the reasmbly,what kind of gasket sealer do you recomend?thankyou