tower of power ?'sss

toocanshan

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i have a 1978 merc. 140hp tower, it has no spark. i was wondering if someone could tell me the order of things to test (with volt meter) and the volts that i am looking for in what component. i am currently attending a marine technician school and believe it or not my instructor tells me that my motor is too old for any info. he has access to. i checked e-bay and there is no service manuals on there for my motor. i also have purchased a SELOC manual for the motor and that tells me to drop the parts off at a shop that i like!! that's silly i don't plan on ever going back to a marine shop, outside of parts anyway. OHH YEAH google doesn't tell me anything either! thanks guys for helping me not skip the 2010 boating season!! TOOCAN


sorry i forgot to mention that this motor is equipped with a auto styled distributor and as far as i know the dist. replaces the coils..??
 

Jhoppy

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Re: tower of power ?'sss

Mercury
Battery CD Ignitions without Points
Four and Six Cylinder Engines
332-2986/393-3736 Type Ignitions
SERVICE NOTE: Check the battery voltage at approximately 3500 RPM, MAXIMUM allowable reading is 16 volts and minimum is 12V. Running below 12V or over 16 volts will damage the ignition. Check for loose connections or a bad battery. Maintenance free batteries are NOT recommended for this application.
General:
Clean all battery connections and engine grounds.
Disconnect the mercury tilt switch and retest. If the ignition works properly, replace the mercury switch.
Connect a spark gap tester to the spark plug wires and check for fire on all cylinders. If some cylinders fire and not others, the problem is likely in the distributor cap, rotor button or spark plug wires.
Perform a voltage drop test after the engine is repaired to see if there is a problem with the voltage going to the CD module. At cranking and while the engine is running, use a DC voltmeter and put the black meter lead on the battery POS (+) post and the red meter lead on the positive battery cable at the starter solenoid. Keep the black lead on the battery post and shift the red meter lead to the positive post of the rectifier, then to the red and white terminals on the switch box. If you find a reading above 0.6V, there is a problem at the point where the voltage jumped up. For instance, if the meter reads 0.4V until you get to the white terminal and then jumps to 2.3V on the white terminal ?this indicates a problem in the keyswitch, or harness. Repeat the test for the negative battery post by putting the black meter lead on the battery NEG (-) post and the red meter lead on the negative battery cable terminal, then shifting to the engine block, rectifier base and case ground of the CD module.
No fire at all:
Connect a spark gap tester to the high-tension lead coming from the ignition coil and set it to approximately 7/16". When you crank the engine over, if it fires while the spark gap tester is connected to the coil and does not fire through the spark plug wires - there is a problem in the distributor cap, rotor button or spark plug wires.
Check the DC voltage present on the white and red terminals while at cranking. It MUST be at least 9? volts. If not, there is a problem in the harness, key switch, starter battery cables or battery.
Check the DC voltage on the white/black trigger terminal at cranking, there must be at least 9V available with the trigger wire connected.
Check DVA voltage between the blue and black trigger wires (They must be connected to the switch box). You should read at least 3V. A low reading indicates a bad trigger.
Check DVA voltage on the green wire going to the coil, it should be over 100 volts at cranking.
Only fires when you let off of the keyswitch:
This symptom usually indicates a bad trigger or low voltage.
No fire or intermittent on one cylinder:
Connect a spark gap tester to the high-tension leads coming from the distributor cap and set the gap to approximately 7/16".
Align the rotor with #1 spark plug wire. Disconnect the trigger wires and connect a jumper wire from the white/black trigger terminal to the black trigger terminal on the switch box.
Connect another jumper wire to the blue trigger terminal turn the ignition switch on. Strike the jumper wire from the blue terminal against engine ground ? (DO NO HOLD THE JUMPER AGAINST ENGINE GROUND!). (Or use a CD Tester). Only the #1 spark plug wire should fire. If another spark plug wire fires, there is a problem in the distributor cap.
Repeat the test for the other cylinders.
High speed miss:
Check the battery voltage on the red and white terminals of the switch box at high speed, the voltage should be between 12.5V and 16V DC. A reading outside this range will damage the CD module. If the readings are abnormal, perform the voltage drop test described above.
Perform a high-speed shutdown and read the spark plugs. Check for water. A crack in the block can cause a high speed miss when the water pressure gets high, but a normal shutdown will mask the problem.
MERCURY BATTERY-POWERED CDI TEST FOR DISTRIBUTOR MODELS

This test is for the 332-2986 switchbox used from 1967-1978 on all the inlines.

This test assumes your coil is good (problems with CDI coils are rare).

DISCONNECT BATTERY

1. Turn off ignition;

2. Disconnect all 3 distributor wires on the Port side of the switchbox (and the ?mercury switch? if present);

3. Remove the HV lead from the ign coil to the center of the dist. cap (remember it unplugs from the coil and unscrews from the cap);

4. Reconnect the HV lead to the COIL only;

5. Position the free end of the HV lead approx. 3/8" from ground (block, shrouds etc), and find a way to hold it there;

6. Jumper the brown and white terminals on the dist. side of the switchbox to each other.

RECONNECT BATTERY

7. Check that you have +12V at the red terminal (even with the ign off);

8. Turn on ignition and verify +12V at the white terminal (same side as the red terminal);

9. Ground the black terminal on the distributor side of the switchbox - this should cause a spark each time you touch ground.

If you get spark with the distributor bypassed, and it won't fire with the distributor connected, the trigger is bad and the entire distributor housing assy must be replaced.

If you get no spark using the test, the switchbox is probably bad. In that case, be sure to check for correct power on the switchbox, check all connections, and check the coil's resistance to make sure it's good.

I found this somwere and saved it.


Also the rotor dose not come off the distributor shaft, it is Permanently attached and will brake if you try. and the wires unscrew from the cap.

Hoppy
 

Laddies

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Re: tower of power ?'sss

Here's a simple test from CDI,
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Chris1956

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Re: tower of power ?'sss

The last distributor ignition Merc rolled off the line in late 1979. They were real popular. I guess I am surprized your instructor never heard of them. They use a hall effect trigger and a single ign coil. More modern Mercs use ADI ignition.
 
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