Trailer restoration complete - my learnings for others!

muncedog

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Hi all,

So I have recently completed a trailer restoration (see photos below - had holes to restored :)) - something I found help through this and other forums and hope I can pass on the learning. These are just my findings and suggestions from someone who spent far too long restoring a trailer in far too bad condition!

My mistakes
-Used angle grinder with sanding discs - takes FAR too long. Don't do it. Its not worth the discs, dust, back ache or time.
-Expected too much from rust converter products (read extremely light cosmetic rust thin panel possibly)
-Rust converter as a primer (doesn't work)
-Didn't FULLY scout out damage before starting - as a result restored a trailer I probably shouldn't have (read red rust below)

Red rust showing?
Take a hammer to it and find how many holes/weak areas appear.Don't forget anything - check wobble rollers, mud guards, suspension etc. Strongly consider new trailer - consider new accessories cost (wobble rollers probably rusty, suspension, tyres etc). Sand blasting will tear holes for sure.

Preperation:
Sand blasting is the best way, there WILL be more rust than you expect - even if its just 'light white' rust on galv coating Otherwise, wire brush for tricky areas (angle grinder brushes are faster than drill bits) and sand flap discs (angle grinder) for flat areas. If any areas of red rust are showing, the whole trailer likely needs preparation so get that sand blast if its not beyond economical repair (cost of welding, new accessories etc)

Rust Converters/primers:
Rust converters/removers chemical are surface treatment only (think thin car panel coating etc). They don't work great as a primer although advertised to do so. preparation is king (back to metal) as I found no luck with converters. I think if your not getting back to metal, perhaps use an etch primer and top coat for good adhesion.

Zinc paint:
If you can get back to metal, consider heavy zinc paint (not spray can that's low %). The heavier the tin of paint the better it is as more % zinc (check their MSDS sheets for % of zinc). I found 'industrial' ones take even more prep and special mixing equipment/spray equipment so opted for the best consumer one I could find.

Hot dip zinc approach:
If at all possible strongly consider sand-blast and re hot-dip galv. This may be expensive but trust me far outweighs serious time taken to do by hand and offers better protection. There are some hot-dip rules (google it) e.g. needs holes to allow gasses to escape, can't have much red rust at all as it will flake off and block such holes or contaminate the zinc bath. Any weld repairs are likely to cause the trailer to buckle/ change shape under the heat. Beside if a weld repair was needed this must also be hot-dippable and probably means the trailer is beyond hot-dip time anyway.

Good luck!
 

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oldjeep

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What kind of rust convertor did you try? POR15, Rust Bullet, or some home repo solution?
 

gm280

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muncedog, any time you tackle any project, be it a typical home project or a boat trailer, you have to look over the project and do a little thinking. First you have to see if refurbishing the trailer is worth the effort it will take. Secondly, you have to know your abilities to accomplish the project. I refurbished an old worn out trailer to like new and made it custom fit for my tri-hull boat. So I knew up front what I wanted and knew I could accomplish that end results. Sure it took a lot of work, but I now have a very nice solid trailer worth a lot more then what I started with. You can see that total effort by clicking the trailer link below and look see. So yes it can be done, but only after YOU evaluate your abilities and efforts... JMHO!
 

jbcurt00

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Yep, trailer work sucks, takes forever and isn't inexpensive. Sounds like your efforts and experience were about on par with those posted on iboats.

For certain boats and builds, I would certainly consider rehab'n a vintage trailer (mine are 1/2 and 1/2) rather then buying a new one. But I find it difficult to ignore a brand new trailer that will fit any and all but 1 of my boats, comes from a dealer w/ some sort of a warranty/guarantee, on brand new axles, seals, bearings, rims and tires, winch and safety chains, TITLED w/ plate for less then $775 out the door. My 12, 13 or 14ft boats would fit on a $650+/- trailer from the same dealer. Esp hard to ignore if I can sell one of my 'needs' work trailers for $1-200, to offset the price of the new one.

Of course, just like boat rehabs, it may work better for whoever is doing the work to spread the $5-600 rehab costs out over the course of the trailer rehab, and have the trailer painted to match the boat. $750 all at once for a new one may not be as easy for some.

I do have a few project boats on vintage trailers that I will eventually rehab when I get around to the boat rehab. IMO, no other trailer would look 'right' under my 1957 Feathercraft Clipper other then the one that came under it:
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Sure, the trailer is WAY over what's really needed to safely tow the Clipper, and sure it weighs almost as much as the boat/motor, possibly more.

Hope the newly rehab'd trailer serves you well Munce, looks like you did nice work.
 

muncedog

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First thing Id like to add along with wire brush and flap sand angle discs is I used a carbide tip for real tight corners - lasted the whole trailer with little blunting!

"What kind of rust convertor did you try? POR15, Rust Bullet, or some home repo solution? "
Admittedly I only tried this one, and then only one epoxy topcoat. But I guess my statements are only opinion and combined with research I did myself.....
Still holds true that back to metal prep and zinc coat is probably better than any converter/primer and topcoat given it has the zinc protection...
http://www.crc.co.nz/Automotive-Cor...2548b7ca-2a00-4114-b2e1-17eb0e6a576b-6558.htm


"First you have to see if refurbishing the trailer is worth the effort it will take. Secondly, you have to know your abilities to accomplish the project."

Agreed with your first point - I was trying to state this in my original post. In hindsight I assumed where no red rust was showing (90% of trailer) the existing galv would take little prep. In reality, it basically all needed to come back to metal - at least if wanting a cold galv zinc coat which should outlive a paint. If I were going to do it again I would get sand-blasted for sure.

As for your second point, that was half the fun - improving my welding skills prior to fixing etc :) However, I think that is of little effect on the time taken - if I did it the SAME way again (which I wouldn't) it would probably take the same time - perhaps a little saving by not trying rust converter!

Nice rebuild btw :)


" $750 all at once for a new one may not be as easy for some."

So I post from New Zealand - trailers are super expensive!
e.g. a used one sold as is with no road warranty ($9000 NZD..):
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/parts-accessories/boat-trailers/auction-946074812.htm
 
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