Trains, who likes them?

PW2

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I have always liked them.
Always wondered how fast they would really go if you just gave them full throttle on a straight track.

Well, not sure how fast they can go, but I recall on the Stevens Pass hiway in Northwest Washington State, years ago they had one go out of control heading down the pass, apparently on its own. It literally flew off the tracks, doing little if any damage to the track itself. The same could not be said of the adjacent forest, as it cut quite an impressive swath in the forest before finally coming to rest.

It was pretty impressive when the dragged it up and had it sitting alonside the 2 lane hiway, with little apparent damage.
 

RubberFrog

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57,
my boy is also 3 (and a half!). He is nuts about trains. We live right near the old W&OD line in Virginia and my town has an old caboose from the 1800's. Every now and again we go climb all over that caboose.
 

jinx

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Frog:

If you're near the W&OD, you not too far from me. My father used to ride the train from Herndon to Rosslyn every day in the late forties. Folks used to call it the Virginia Creeper because of its' slow speed and on time performance.

An old caboose...would that be Vienna? My wife and I are both from Oakton, which had its' own railroad until 1939. Then they ripped up the tracks and shipped them to Japan for them to build ships with. The old station is still there, if you know where to look.

I'm out in the hinterlands of Western Loudoun now, so close to W. Va and Maryland that we don't like to talk about it.

How about a cuppa coffee sometime?

Jinx
 

57whitehouse

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More fun last night. I took my boy(and little 1yr gilr and wife of course) to the big model train exibit in Dallas. It was fantastic. It was in the North Park Mall, and they took a spot where a little store would normally be, and set up a huge, elaborate set with towns, mountains, cities... It had Washington DC, Mt Rushmore and NewYork. I can't tell you how many trains it had running at the same time. These people have great passion for trains.

I showed one of the guys the pic I had on my cell phone of my boy and I standing on the nose of the engine we went in. He told me the model of it, but it was sooooo long I couldn't remember it. He said you could tell witch one it was because of the grooves it had in the front(nose).

I plan on taking him back and taking some of my friends with little boys with me. I think it will be a great boys day out.

It was set up to support Ronald McDonalds house.
 

jimyoung

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When i was a little guy...grandpa lived in Webster Grove Missouri...the train track was on a small hill just across the back yard, we would get in trouble for getting to close to the tracks when the train went by....but we rarely missed one....waving at the engineers, puttin pennies on the track to flatten them, chasing the caboose......could hang ot of the 2nd story bedroom window and watch em go by at night, had'nt thought about those days in years......things were a lot simlper then...thanks for thread
 

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I remember way back, (in '65)my parents loaded 6 kids on a train, from Ottawa, to New Brunswick! I was 6 or 7, but remember traveling to and from cars...Diners and Sleeper Berths. My mother, trying to keep 6 kids together, so as not to lose them..She did a great job, she had practise. In 1960, she shepherded 5 kids on the Sylvania (Ship) from Germany to Quebec City. But still remember the train trip. My mom has pics of the ship, and all of us, but none of the the trip I remember...

Kerry
 
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That was really nice of those two fellas. That little one will never forget that, just like I'll never forget my first ride on a D-8 Cat.

Trains are great. They are by far the most effecient way to move large volumes of freight overland.
 

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Their power is impressive. Some of their horns generate more horsepower than a couple of cars I have had. I enjoy hiking on the right of way. It is peaceful even in an urban areas.
 

RubberFrog

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Frog:

If you're near the W&OD, you not too far from me. My father used to ride the train from Herndon to Rosslyn every day in the late forties. Folks used to call it the Virginia Creeper because of its' slow speed and on time performance.

An old caboose...would that be Vienna? My wife and I are both from Oakton, which had its' own railroad until 1939. Then they ripped up the tracks and shipped them to Japan for them to build ships with. The old station is still there, if you know where to look.

I'm out in the hinterlands of Western Loudoun now, so close to W. Va and Maryland that we don't like to talk about it.

How about a cuppa coffee sometime?

Jinx
Yep, I'm in Vienna. A cup of coffee might be a nice way to break up the winter!
 

57whitehouse

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Going back to see the model trains again tonight. My best friend and I are taking all the kids and giv'n the wives the night off. Should be a blast.

I took my kid to the train tracks this last weekend, but no trains came by. So we left a couple of pennies on the track. Went back a few days later and picked one up(dark outside, only found one). The boy was real excited, then a train came by and the night was complete.
 

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How fast could a train go? They've got enough power they could go faster than we'd want them to. A couple years ago they supposedly upgraded the track southwest from Kalamazoo (toward Chicago) in order to handle 70 - 100 mph Amtrak. They had to physically remove many grade crossings (ie dig out roadway leading up to the tracks), and every remaining crossing had to have a drop-down gate. There were other changes required that I can't remember. The point is, the limiting factor is not the engine but the track and its environment. Think of a narrow channel by a busy port. A boat may be capable of 50 mph, but the environment makes it unsafe. Just think of that Amtrak accident by Chicago a week ago.

Christmas 1969 I took the train from college in Michigan to home in Minnesota. That was when the railroads were trying to discourage passenger traffic and made it all but unbearable. Taking the Burlington from Chicago to Winona MN, it made an unscheduled stop after midnight in some tiny west Illinois town. I had dozed off and woke from lack of motion and the cold -- we were without heat in -10* weather, no one saying why, no idea what was happening or when we might be under way again. For a while we watched through the window as some guy pulled big (mail?) sacks off a cart and dragged them 2 blocks to the train, then trudged back for the next and the next and the next. We wondered why he didn't just pull the cart up to the train. Shivering cold and miserable, just as the eastern sky was beginning to lighten, we felt the train jerk and off we went. Again, no warning or any indication the status was about to change. My parents had been waiting at the (unheated) train station for me for about 5 hours. The return trip was a little better, but still left much to be desired.

For a few years I lived in northern / northeastern Indiana that has lots of train traffic. The railroads wouldn't commit to maintaining grade crossings until one police chief (Mishawaka IN) parked a squad car across the tracks with its lights flashing and told the railroad he'd move it when the crossing was passable. The fire chief of Osceola IN published in the South Bend and Elkhart newspapers that the town's fire trucks would not be able to cross the tracks until grade crossings were repaired. Yes, a couple houses did burn to the ground.

Even though Indiana had a state law regulating how long a grade crossing could be blocked, it was never enforced. Shortly after we moved to Ft Wayne, one New Haven (Ft Wayne suburb) resident had his job, house, family, and his life threatened because he was trying to get the police to enforce the state law. After a small fire at his house, he just gave up and I never heard of him again.

Now in my mom's town there's a big hullabaloo about coal trains from Montana to the East going through Mankato MN. About the most cost-effective way to ship a very necessary fuel (and other goods). But mile-long trains struggling to pull tons of freight up steep hills out of the river valley would essentially cut the town in half and prevent emergency equipment from doing their job.

Yeah, guys are all enamored with big machinery and engines. We're fascinated by the mechanics and the travel. Railroads are good, but also present many problems. How to balance those? I don't know.
 

57whitehouse

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EthanandDadontrain.jpg




I finaly figured out how to transfer a pic from my phone to email. Here it is.
 

BLU LUNCH

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Nice picture, How much do UP charge for the use of the loco?
 

BLU LUNCH

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I better explain about the "charge remark, several years ago Union Pacific's crack legal team decided that model railroad manufactors would have to pay licence fees for every piece of equipment that bore any UP or it's predisecors logo including Southern Pacific, Western Pacific, Northern Pacific,Missorui Pacific and the KATY raliroads and a lot of smaller lines that UP owns the names, CSX jumped in the game and between the 2 they covered 85% of current and former railroads in the US. It was a little over 50 years ago 1947 Lionel need help paying for new dies for the now famous EMD F-3's, Santa Fe and the New York Central each payed Lionel 6K for the exclusive rights to be the only road names avalible the loco for 10 years, considering the 600./year for the advertizing and the hundred of thousands of sets sold it was money well spent. What finally happened all the major manufactors banned toghter and came to terms with UP and CSX. http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/licensing/index.shtml http://www.csx.com/?fuseaction=media.tlic
 

aerospot

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Trains? Did someone say Trains??
I work for General Electric in Erie Pennsylvania. We manufacture Locomotives!
There are around 5000 people who work in this plant on the shore of Lake Erie.
Heres some interesting statistics;

Locomotive Facts

• Locomotives are one of GE’s oldest products. In 1880, Thomas Edison developed the first experimental electrical locomotive.

• In 1908, GE bought the property that is not the Global Headquarters for GE Transportation Systems.

I have loads of Locomotive photos, digital. If anyone is interested I'd be glad to pass them along...

• A fully serviced locomotive weighs up to 440,000 pounds.

• The longest locomotives are 76 feet and average 15 feet and 5 ?” in height.

• Each locomotive has 13,000 unique parts.

• Freight locomotives travel up to 75 miles per hour.

• Passenger locomotives travel up to 110 miles per hour.

• Fully serviced locomotives carry up to 5,000 gallons of fuel, 450 gallons of lube oil, and 400 gallons of water.

• The life expectancy for locomotives is approximately 20 years depending on its service and maintenance schedule.

• All GE locomotives produced here are tested on the GE 4.1 mile test track.

• The typical crew size for a cab is 3 people: the engineer, the helper & a conductor or head brakeman.
 
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aerospot

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PS: I have digital photos, many of them.. if any one is interested... let me know!

Dave
 

57whitehouse

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Trains? Did someone say Trains??
I work for General Electric in Erie Pennsylvania. We manufacture Locomotives!
There are around 5000 people who work in this plant on the shore of Lake Erie.
Heres some interesting statistics;

Locomotive Facts

? Locomotives are one of GE?s oldest products. In 1880, Thomas Edison developed the first experimental electrical locomotive.

? In 1908, GE bought the property that is not the Global Headquarters for GE Transportation Systems.

I have loads of Locomotive photos, digital. If anyone is interested I'd be glad to pass them along...

? A fully serviced locomotive weighs up to 440,000 pounds.

? The longest locomotives are 76 feet and average 15 feet and 5 ?? in height.

? Each locomotive has 13,000 unique parts.

? Freight locomotives travel up to 75 miles per hour.

? Passenger locomotives travel up to 110 miles per hour.

? Fully serviced locomotives carry up to 5,000 gallons of fuel, 450 gallons of lube oil, and 400 gallons of water.

? The life expectancy for locomotives is approximately 20 years depending on its service and maintenance schedule.

? All GE locomotives produced here are tested on the GE 4.1 mile test track.

? The typical crew size for a cab is 3 people: the engineer, the helper & a conductor or head brakeman.



I want to know how many gallons per mile these things get. How many cars can they pull...
 

STARCRAFT16SS

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I have always liked them.
Always wondered how fast they would really go if you just gave them full throttle on a straight track.

Freight locomotives I run have a 72-73 mph speed limiter built into them...Amtrack can go 79mph and freight can go 60mph on the tracks I run on....out in Nd there are places freight is allowed to go 70mph
 

wajajaja02

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train are coming back, NJ is building three new lines. and Obama is planning several high speed corridors, it will be a new train era in the next twenty years.
 
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