Transom Replacement

laurincole

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Hey folks, I have a '73 Ouachita 14' and upon removing the motor I notice that the interior of the transom is getting soft. the exterior is solid. The boat is fiberglass. Can I replace the transom or use it till the motor falls off? Or just scrap the boat?
 

gspig

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Re: Transom Replacement

Transom can be replaced. The fiberglass will always feel solid. Don't hang an outboard on a rotted transom, you stand a good chance of lossing the O/B and sinking your boat.
 

screeech

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Re: Transom Replacement

I just discovered rot in the transom of my 20" fiberglass Center console and have been doing some research. In addition to complete replacement, there are products that you can use to fill the void once you scrape out the rotted wood. One is Git Rot and the other is called seacast. I dont have personal experience with these but I am going to give them a look before a I spend big bucks on having the transom rebuilt completely. <br />Suppossedly the structural integrity of these is superb.<br />Does anyone have experience with these?
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

Thanks for all the advice, but am I to understand the the transom is wooden. I thought that this was a fiberglass boat. I will go dig around on the transom and see. Once again thanks any good advice is welcome
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

Thanks for all the advice, but am I to understand the the transom is wooden. I thought that this was a fiberglass boat. I will go dig around on the transom and see. Once again thanks any good advice is welcome
 

gspig

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Re: Transom Replacement

The transom is wooden with a fiberglass skin, the hull of the boat is most likely fiberglass only with support stringers of fiberglass encapsulated wood. Get Rot is good once the wood is dried and is not already mulch. Seacast is a pourable liquid, so you must be careful in scraping the wood out of the inside skin of fiberglass. The inside skin must also be strong enough to support the weight of the liquid until it sets.<br /><br />I did the transom in my boat at the beginning of the season. It is a lot of work to scrape the wood out, but the strength of 1 1/2" of plywood is quite impressive.
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

I did some poking around on the inside of the transom and found that most of the fiberglass had delaminated a pealed off with my hand and the WOOD was completely wet and almost garden mulch. What do I do now. Is there a procedure and please help if I have stupid questions
 

MercMark

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Re: Transom Replacement

First thing you do is search "transom" in this forum and read everything that comes up.<br /><br />Next, follow every project link you find in anyone's signature.<br /><br />Then, you look at every boating project on the site that hosts my project there in my signature.<br /><br />ThEn you go get the West sytem fibreglass repair manual for about $7 where wesst system is sold regardless of whether you plan to use polyester resin or epoxy resin. There is a lot good info in it.<br /><br />Then you don't try and do it in a week like I did. Give yourself about 12 long weekends.<br /><br />or, you cut your losses and go find a new hull for your motor. Hulls without motors are around on the cheap. But, even still you'd be well advised to read all of that before buying a new hull so you don't find yourself in the same situation. <br /><br />What I learned most doing my project was how to buy a boat so I NEVER have to do this again.
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

So I have to basicly cut the back of my boat off and replace it with wood and re-glass it?
 

ErikDC

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Re: Transom Replacement

Okay, I have a question or two. The original transom (wood and glass) is partially rotten, enough to cause concern. A newer transom (wood and glass as well) is in great shape but was placed OVER the original transom from the inside. My buddy insists that he can "shore it up" with angle iron, etc. and I can't seem to convince him that we need to replace the whole shebang. He's a car guy and doesn't seem to understand that boat - transom = sunken boat. I personally believe that the transom could probably go a year, maybe two without too much worry but not much beyond that. I figured that as long as the transom is easily accessible at any time, at least I can check it whenever I would like. A compromise is in order, any suggestions?
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

Is there some sort of metafor in there. I understand that no back on the boat means it don't float. I'm just trying to fix it. Just trying to get advice on how to do it.
 

ErikDC

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Sorry, Icole, I accidentally hijacked your thread. Didn't realize until now, my apologies. I'm pretty tired, forgive me!
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

No problem erikdc, I was just trying to draw something out of it and you did give me an idea. If it is not rotten all the way to the sides of the boat, and I do dig out the rotten part and fill it, What would be the harm in putting a piece of plywood overlapping the good area and glassing it that way? Any Thoughts?
 

MercMark

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Re: Transom Replacement

The right way to do it is to leave the exterior fibreglass skin, and cut the interior fibreglass skin out. Grind the lip of the interior skin down to flush with with the sides of the hull. Fit new wood, then cover it in with new fibreglass cloth and resin, lapping the the cloth about 6" or 8" onto the sides and bottom of the hull.<br /><br />The process involves taking off the deck or cutting the back part of your deck off, and cutting out at least the back 18" of floor.<br /><br />More often than not, if you find the transom is rotten, the stringers are rotten too. The stringers are structural support under the floor. A lot of boat manufacturers installed the floor with bare plywood exposed to the bilge. The floor is usually the indicator of rot. You should check it thoroughly too.<br /><br />You can check for rot in the transom by using a technique called "sounding". You tap the inside of the transom with a hammer. Rotten spots will give a "dead" sound instead of the solid hard sound of a tap on good wood.<br /><br />I think you'll find that removing the wood from in between the two fibreglass skins is very difficult unless the rot is so advanced that the whole transom is mush. That's the sort of thing you would do if you were going to use seacast.<br /><br />Even after cutting the inside fibreglass away, I had some hard work gettting the pieces of wood out that weren't totally rotten.<br /><br />If this whole process is totally new to you, you should check out "runabout renovation". I bought it, but I found the info wasn't much beyond what I could learn here and from looking in my boat. I'll sell you mine if you want it, but it will probably end up costing you as much as ordering it from a bookstore online, since I can't ship as cheaply as they can.
 

MercMark

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Re: Transom Replacement

As for using steel. One thing that turns up over and over is avoid creating hard spots in the hull. I imagine if you installed steel, and somehow attached it to the hull you'd focus a lot of forces in one spot which is reported to increase the likelyhood of stress cracks or worse in that area. Even if you're just fibreglassing new stringers in, you're supposed to stagger the edges of each consecutive layer of cloth to avoid hard spots
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

Thanks for the info. I will start cutting the inside of the transom this morning. Hope I'm not biting off more than I chew.
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

Hello my friends, I did som cutting and digging around in the transom the morning and dicovered that the interior part of the transom ply is soaked and the second layer of ply is dry. Can I cut a piece and glue and glass to the dry part? Assuming I sand and make a good bonding surface.
 

laurincole

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Re: Transom Replacement

Hey folks, I did some surfing on the internet and cannot find a web sight for the original mfg of my boat. It is a Ouachita Model 14x. The transom plate says they were located in Arkadephia, AK. Does anyone know if they are still in business or were they consumed by somebody else?
 

MercMark

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Re: Transom Replacement

I suggest you spend a lot of time doing research before starting. It's so easy to make an irreversable mistake, or at least one that's more work to correct than the original problem was.
 
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