trophy engine upgrade

valocol

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I'm looking to hang a new yamaha 150 hp 4 stroke on the back of my 2002 trophy. Has anyone anything similar on their trophy. Hows the performance and fuel consumption. I currently have a 125hp merc saltwater 2 stroke. She's already quite low in the back when 2 fish at the back was wondering what she be like with the weight of a 150 4 stroke, She is rated to 175 hp.
Any help or advice please
 

lingcod

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Re: trophy engine upgrade

I'm looking to hang a new yamaha 150 hp 4 stroke on the back of my 2002 trophy. Has anyone anything similar on their trophy. Hows the performance and fuel consumption. I currently have a 125hp merc saltwater 2 stroke. She's already quite low in the back when 2 fish at the back was wondering what she be like with the weight of a 150 4 stroke, She is rated to 175 hp.
Any help or advice please

I put a 150 yamaha 4 stroke on the back of mine and she squatted about an inch. move some stuff forward and you should be fine. 150 yamaha is 475 lbs if I remember correctly, your current motor is probably in the mid 300's. take one more person out on your boat and have all three stand in the back and see how she does.

lingcod
 

QC

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Re: trophy engine upgrade

I moved this over to Non-Repair Outboard. Kind of confusing, but we try to keep the boat section free of engine topics. Good luck!
 

valocol

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Re: trophy engine upgrade

thanks for the help. Whats your performance like, i currently have to rev to 4200/4500 with 2 on board to get 20 knots. I was hoping with the bigger engine i could drop back the revs to mid 3000s and achieve similar speed but be in more economical rev bracket.
 

Silvertip

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Re: trophy engine upgrade

I suggest you go to Yamahas web site and look at "Performance Bulletins". Select your boat, engine technology you are interested in (two stroke or four stroke). then pick the HP and you can look at the test reports which include speed, rpm and fuel consumption. You might find that what you think is going to happen is actually opposite of that. Keep in mind I'm not going to do your research for you, but if you compare a 2 and 4 stroke engine and the boat speed at any given rpm you may find that the two stroke actually is faster than an equivalent four stroke at the same rpm. How can that be? Simple. 4-strokes tend to be geared lower (higher ratio) so they rev faster to make up for the loss of hole shot most of them have. It is also possible that they have a different prop pitch. Therefore the two stroke can rev slower at the same speed of the four stroke. Because it is reving slower fuel consumption may be very little different. Look at those charts very carefully and make darned sure you understand what you are looking at. You are about to spend a bunch of money. Be reasonably certain that exchange of engines does what you expect it to do. And above all, believe half of what the sales guy tells you. After all, his job is to sell you a motor regardless how much untruth he has to spew in order to do it. One thing you will also notice -- a two stroke and a four stroke at wide open throttle come very close to each other when it comes to fuel consumption. And pay particular attention to the top speed of both motors at wide open throttle as well as hole-shot (time to plane numbers). When it comes to engine selection there is more to it than just "quiet and fuel economy". Speaking of quiet, last time I checked, Yamaha quit listing noise levels. Of the many times I looked at these bulletins, it was apparent that at wide open throttle the two technologies were not that far apart. A four stroke makes a different sound than a two stroke and much of the "quieter" debate can be attributed to type of sound rather than the actual noise level.
 
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Re: trophy engine upgrade

mate i have the 150 yammie 4 stroke on mine. it rides nice and is balanced well. i get one ltr fuel burn and wot 6000 rpm producing 60 klm hr with a 15 pitch prop.
4000rpm approx 42 klm per hr with a fuel burn of approx 500ml to 700ml.
My advise would be to go up to the 200 hp motor or if you can afford it get the new 4.2 ltr motor of 225 hp wich is the same weight as the 150 hp, tis is what i will be doin as soon as i can afford to bring one into australia.
cheers Adrian hope this helps
 

Trophyboy

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Re: trophy engine upgrade

Optimax 135/150/175...faster, lighter and just as good gas mileage if not better.
 
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