Unique Boat Idea (I think) needed

CATransplant

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Re: Unique Boat Idea (I think) needed

that looks great but I don't know if I could find somebody to build one for me. I also don't know how the Home Owners Association would want cables there, but would be something I would have to check out.

The Sea Legs looked like a good idea for pontoon boats but im not sure.

You'd have to find someone who does unusual mechanical things. Someone who'd take the job on as a lark as much as a money-maker. The kind of guy who builds a miniature steam train in his backyard for his kids.

Such folks are hard to find. As for the homeowners' association...that'd be a hard sell, I'm sure, but...if you could convince them that your cable would run deep enough to prevent any problems with other boaters, they might go for it.

Such a system would use up your $20,000 budget, I'm quite certain, but it's really a simple thing to design. Nothing high-tech at all. That site I linked to discussed hand cranked cable ferries, which let me to think about putting the power on the ferry, rather than on land, using a simple slack cable that would simply rest on the bottom, getting raised by the drive unit on the boat itself as it traveled, then sinking back to the bottom as the boat reaches the other side.

Using wire cable, a simple friction deal would work, powered, perhaps by a small, electric start gasoline engine..think Briggs&Stratton 10hp. A gear reduction gearbox, with a reverse gear (not hard to come by) and a couple of grooved wheels (cable sheaves), and you'd be home free. How long the cable would last is something I don't know, but replacing it wouldn't be that big a deal. Steel cable does surprisingly well when submerged in fresh water, and stainless steel cable is available (at substantial cost).

The actual craft could be a simple pontoon boat, with the drive system mounted midships on one side or the other. Pontoons boats go, used, sometimes for an amazingly low price.

I'd love to design and install a system like this, but I'm nowhere near you. It would be a fun project.

Think about a university engineering program. In most of them, students must come up with and realize a project before graduation. Your system would make a good one, I think.
 

BigB9000

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the cable pulley system may be the way to go.
I made a system like that so I wouldnt have to get wet to retrieve my boat at the river. worked freaking great!

anyway

Home Owners Association's are bastards. they will not let you do anything and will complaign about anything you own. boat, lawn decorations, mail-box, etc etc, all shuned by the assoc.
 

CATransplant

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Best of luck to you on this. But do beware the Homeowner's Association. They could easily kill any interesting plans you might have.
 

ziggy

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don't them little toy remote control boats have 100' range? build an elect. pontoon with remote control so ya can get it back on demand with the remote..... sure would take a lot of design work though i suppose......
 

Ezrider_92356

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i think a couple of small 14ft allum boats with eather an electic trolling motor or a small out board and a canopy would be your best bet. probably wouldent get any wetter in the rain than you would just walking out to your car
 

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You'd have to find someone who does unusual mechanical things. Someone who'd take the job on as a lark as much as a money-maker. The kind of guy who builds a miniature steam train in his backyard for his kids.

Such folks are hard to find. As for the homeowners' association...that'd be a hard sell, I'm sure, but...if you could convince them that your cable would run deep enough to prevent any problems with other boaters, they might go for it.

Such a system would use up your $20,000 budget, I'm quite certain, but it's really a simple thing to design. Nothing high-tech at all. That site I linked to discussed hand cranked cable ferries, which let me to think about putting the power on the ferry, rather than on land, using a simple slack cable that would simply rest on the bottom, getting raised by the drive unit on the boat itself as it traveled, then sinking back to the bottom as the boat reaches the other side.

Using wire cable, a simple friction deal would work, powered, perhaps by a small, electric start gasoline engine..think Briggs&Stratton 10hp. A gear reduction gearbox, with a reverse gear (not hard to come by) and a couple of grooved wheels (cable sheaves), and you'd be home free. How long the cable would last is something I don't know, but replacing it wouldn't be that big a deal. Steel cable does surprisingly well when submerged in fresh water, and stainless steel cable is available (at substantial cost).

The actual craft could be a simple pontoon boat, with the drive system mounted midships on one side or the other. Pontoons boats go, used, sometimes for an amazingly low price.

I'd love to design and install a system like this, but I'm nowhere near you. It would be a fun project.

Think about a university engineering program. In most of them, students must come up with and realize a project before graduation. Your system would make a good one, I think.

The sad thing is I'm an engineer. I don't know if I could design anything like that. I just know the hoa wouldn't let me run a steel cable across the bottom though. I think this is the way I am going to go:

Something similiar to this in very calm water day to day maybe aluminum:

http://www.fingerhut.com/ProductGroup.aspx?offergroupxid=61276&categoryxid=3550

And then when people come over I am going to plan to buy a pontoon boat with sea legs.

http://www.sea-legs.com

I think I have everything figured out. (Hopefully). I think I am going to go on with the process of putting an offer and getting everything inspected very well. Thanks for the help guys.
 

xxturbowesxx

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Re: Unique Boat Idea (I think) needed

may sound crazy but what about a amphibicar or some sort of amphibious vehicle..if it were me id look for 2 used argo's with seating for 4.. get an outboard mount for them(for more power in bad weather or if you want to get there fast) ,and get an enclosure just drive it right up the ramp.. and to your car in the parking lot..? it goes 3mph on water or 10mph with the outboard mount. i dont think any sort of cable idea would fly with the homeowners..http://www.argoatv.com
 

ondarvr

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I'm with EZrider on this, keep it simple and cheap, john boats with electric motors for everybody, for less than $1,000 per copy you done. An encolsed top would be great, but they don't all need one.

I live on the water and there's an island about that far away, we just have several small boats of assorted types and sizes, you just use whichever ones available, or the one you like best if there's more than one left. If you don't get one with a motor you just row, it takes about the same amount of time either way.
 

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With a budget of $20,000, I would look into the possibility of building an elevated walkway.

You would have to obtain the necessary building permits and approval from the homeowners association, but I think the project would be a lot easier to "sell" because it would be little more than a fancy "dock."

If you built the structure out of treated wood pilings and planks, the cost should be managable and it should last for quite some time. It could be built high enough to allow boat traffic underneath and would be a great deal more practical than trying to build some sort of floating system.

To me, simplicity is key in your idea to live on an island. If you lead an active life, both you and your wife are going to need to travel on and off of the island frequently, complicating that process is going to make the "cool factor" of it all fade very quickly.
 

marine4003

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How about a really big slingshot??:D:D
 

Mark42

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Put a 50 yd dock on land side, and a 50 yd long dock on the island side. Leave a foot or so between them with a board you can flip over the gap and drive golf carts, mopeds, scooters, etc back and fourth.
 

cmcpherson

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Re: Unique Boat Idea (I think) needed

Souns like a lot of people have ignored the fact that a bridge can't be built.
 

DRIFTER_016

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I like the Argo idea. You could buy a couple and never have to worry if someone needs to get offthe island, plus you could park it in your golf cart shed.


http://www.argoatv.com/
 

jay_merrill

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Souns like a lot of people have ignored the fact that a bridge can't be built.

He did say that but didn't say why. He later said boats have to be able to pass - if that's the reason for no bridge, the problem can be overcome.
 
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Re: Unique Boat Idea (I think) needed

:p Very Very easy.;)

"A Floating Shed" Just like you wanted in the first place! With a waterproof hand cranked wheel mounted inside.


Inside the "Floating Shed" Wheel grabs the Rope or Cable and it is hooked to a wheel inside the shed that you can turn without getting wet (or Solar motor driven : Optional)

On each side of the floating shed is a slack rope that extends to each landing side with a retreivl wheel also.

It will reach each side before becoming taught no matter what side the "Floating Shed" is on.

When not in use, each (slack side) rope sinks to the bottom so boats can pass by when not in use and the "Floating Shed" is held by the shore wheel that pulled it over.

A wheel will be attached to both sides for retrieving the shed if it is on the other side when some wants to cross.

When the "Floating Shed" is being retreived, the (other side wheel & the Shed Wheel inside the shed) just unwinds and the slack rope sinks to the bottom again ready for the next trip either way.


Should be an easy Association Approval and done for $10K - $20K easy.

You want drawings?

Just PM...:)...:rolleyes:
 

Grand Larsony

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This is dumb. Waste of time, IMHO... The island is cheap because it's inconvenient. There is no easy solution, it's AN ISLAND. Duh.
 

RWilson2526

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Come on GL tell us how you really feel....stop beating around the bush:D
 

J. Howard

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Re: Unique Boat Idea (I think) needed

I wonder if the original poster ever got this project off the ground?
 
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