universal regulator rectifier

[wi]

I purchased the universal voltage regulator rectifier 01-090-1 referred to in several forums for my 1989 85HP Force. For wires the new regulator rectifier has two yellows a black and a black with white stripe, but no red. Which wire do I connect to red? The supplier and all other info sources have been of no help. Connected the black with white stripe to red and the black to ground and kept blowing circuit breaker. Any help greatly appreciated. Need an answer fast.

 

[Jiggz]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

Obviously the two yellow wires are the AC input wires which connects to the yellow/purple wires coming from the stator. Now you need to connect the black/white stripe to positive or red wire and the black wire to ground. For some reason you ordered a different style because the one I bought came with two yellow wires, a red and a black. But yours should work just fine unless you already fried it when you connected it backwards. So the only way to find out for sure is connect it again as above and then measure the voltage across this two wires (black/white and black) note it down. Ran the engine and then measure the voltage again. Usually, the output voltage when charging is somewhere in 13.5~14.5 volts DC depending on the charge state of the battery.

 

[pnwboat]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

I think it's the wrong part. It suspect it's just a regulator. No rectifier. That's why it doesn't work. Someone else ordered one fairly recently and experienced the same thing.

 

[Jiggz]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

I think it's the wrong part. It suspect it's just a regulator. No rectifier. That's why it doesn't work. Someone else ordered one fairly recently and experienced the same thing.

Actually according to this page it's a universal regulator with rectifier as stated at the bottom of the page. However, it is the 150W version instead of the 200W version using the 01-154-16 part number.
http://www.mfgsupply.com/01-090-1.html

 

[pnwboat]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

I think I would use the 01-154-16 part number because it has the correct wire colors and the part description states Rectifier/Regulator. Something doesn't add up with that 01-090-1 part number. You never know what some of these suppliers will do as time goes on. This would be the second instance in the last few weeks that the 01-090-1 part has not worked.

 

[Jiggz]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

I've got the 01-154-16 which is a shunt type and requires a floating ground (grounded casing) in addition to the negative black wire. Some people complains about it not working but when I installed mine it seems to be doing the same but waiting for about 5 minutes and then it started to regulate. Even nowadays, after starting it doesn't seem to be working until after about 5 minutes of running. Why? I'm not sure but after the first 5 minutes it seems to be working very well. Another thing as mentioned before, if after installing the tach starts going haywire, just switch the yellow wires and everything seems to go fine. Why? I don't know but it works.

 

[wi]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

Upon further testing it looks like both the black and black w white stripe wires are both DC+. The unit is grounded through the engine block mount. I hooked the black w white stripe wire to the red and went to the lake. The voltage fluctuated from 12.3 to 12.6 volts no matter what rpm the motor was running. I assume that it is not working and will try to exchange the unit for the 01-154-16 part. This has been a real pain in the posterior and I am sorry that I just didn't go for the OEM replacement rectifier. Thanks for the info onthe updated part number.

 

[Jiggz]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

Well, that is not really a sure sign it is not working for it all depends on the charge state of the battery. if the battery is recently charge or still holding a full charge, it is normal to see charging voltage to stay withing 12.3~12.6 volts. I still do not quite agree that the solid black wire is also a positive output. You might want to check the output voltage with a voltmeter. Keep the black/white stripe connected to the red wire going to the ckt bkr and then keep the black wire disconnected. With the engine running read between the black/white stripe wire and the black wire to see if there is any voltage. if voltage is present, then it goes on to show that the black wire is actually the negative wire. But if you can exchange the unit with the other model so much the better.

 

[LARRYHUB]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

I ordered one from Powersportparts.net It worked just fine came with 2 yellow and a red wire and a black ground. It only cost $28.43

http://www.powersportparts.net/SPORTS-PARTS-VOLT-REGULATOR-ELEC-01-154-16-p/12-3090a.htm

 

[wi]

Re: universal regulator rectifier

There should be a notification or someway to alert people that the part number is not correct in several of the forum threads that have been created here, especially the locked thread stated by john of md.