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dozerII

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We finally got the boat out this weekend to start the break in process on the motor. 1993 Johnson 90hp. When I did the rebuild on the boat I installed new Teleflex gauges, the tach works at idle and will work as the rpms come up but will drop to zero after you are at a crusing speed. If I drop back down to an idle is will pick up and read well till I hit a crusing speed again. I get a wot of 5100rpm. I checked all wiring connections and they are all fine. The other thing is, it is charging on my volt gauge at 14.5 to 15 volt is this okay or are the two problems linked?

Thanks in advance Glen
 
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(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

NOTE: For the later models that DO NOT incorporate a wiring terminal strip, splicing into the "Yellow Wire" mentioned will be necessary.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.

To my knowledge, 14.5v should be the highest reading, but others more qualified with top voltage readings will no doubt be along shortly.
 

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We finally got the boat out this weekend to start the break in process on the motor. 1993 Johnson 90hp. When I did the rebuild on the boat I installed new Teleflex gauges, the tach works at idle and will work as the rpms come up but will drop to zero after you are at a crusing speed. If I drop back down to an idle is will pick up and read well till I hit a crusing speed again. I get a wot of 5100rpm. I checked all wiring connections and they are all fine. The other thing is, it is charging on my volt gauge at 14.5 to 15 volt is this okay or are the two problems linked?

Thanks in advance Glen

been there done that... mine did exactly the same thing .. followed Joe's procedure and tach worked great while the rectifier was bypassed... that leaves one answer: rectifier is bad...

yes, the two problems are linked...
 

dozerII

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Thanks alot Joe and Countvlad, I will do a little more testing now, at home. I followed what my OMC manual said and it pointed toward the Rectfier, But I will follow your instructions to make sure. The motor is under waranty for another month and a half so I will call the dealer once I know for certain.
Thanks again Glen
 

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As I have said before this site is INCREDIBLE. Thanks you Joe Reeves, I followed your instructions and yes the Rectifier is bad. I have contacted the people I purchased the motor from, just waiting to see if the will honor their waranty on the parts. It looks to me like I will have to pull the flywheel to change the rectifier, is this correct?

THANKS AGAIN

Glen
 

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Re: Tach reading all over the place WHAT A GREAT SITE

As I have said before this site is INCREDIBLE. Thanks you Joe Reeves, I followed your instructions and yes the Rectifier is bad. I have contacted the people I purchased the motor from, just waiting to see if the will honor their waranty on the parts. It looks to me like I will have to pull the flywheel to change the rectifier, is this correct?

THANKS AGAIN

Glen

the best answer would be for you to purchase a manual... good luck
 

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Already have one, Factory OMC, was just confirming what I saw.
Glen
 

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Already have one, Factory OMC, was just confirming what I saw.
Glen

If that's what the OEM book says, it's true.
 

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Yes, remove the flywheel for proper access to the reg/rectifier bolts. Be sure to torque the flywheel nut to factory specs when done to avoid a sheared flywheel key.
 

dozerII

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Re: Update Tach reading all over the place WHAT A GREAT SITE

I ordered a new Reg/Rectifier from Iboats and recieved it yesterday, installed today and everything works great now. The OMC manual says nothing about having to remove the fly wheel to change the reg/rect, but it does have to come off as well as the stator has to be lifted. Must be an error in the manual.
Any way thanks to everyone for the help.:D:)
Glen
 
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