Upgrading Islander

Davo1

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Re: Upgrading Islander

other than flooding my boat is there any way to determine loose rivets. My biggest concern is how do I get the boat off the trailer. i dont have an engine lift or even know how to pull one, I have no hoist. Thought about getting a 2 ton come along but what do I pull the boat onto. We have a marina nearby that the hoist can be rented but then what boat is not at home its at a marina. I want to paint and seal up bottom. Sand and repaint trailer after pulling hubs and redoing breaks as needed. (that part I can do) Never painted a boat before. Should I even attempt this before i redo the transom and perhaps pull floor. The guy who did the floor painted both sides of marine plywood. He used no resin that I can tell so not sure how long floor will last. Its all solid now just needs some trim and side panels done. I painted it with Cabelas non slip liner paint but I am not impressed. Color said tan its actually dark brown and the floor gets hot so thinking about covering it in vinyl or painting over it with a neutral color. Cabin floor and benches are solid and I painted both sides with floor liner and re-installed those should last a long time. Just looking for ideas or someone to come over and redo my boat if they are bored.
 

Woodonglass

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Re: Upgrading Islander

Deck life on Any boat, Tin or Glass depends mostly on Care and Maintenance. If you keep her dry and covered when not on the lake, Make sure to coat any pentetrations with epoxy and more paint then that painted both sides deck should last several years. When I was younger I had a wood boat made from plywood, Painted with Oil House paint. No glass only wood and paint. She was stored in a shed and always looked after. Last time I saw her, the guy was still using her. She's 25 years old. It's all about care and maintenance.;)
 

Bondo

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Re: Upgrading Islander

is there any way to determine loose rivets.

Ayuh,.... Lay on yer back, 'n look Up.... Crawl around under the boat, on the trailer, 'n Inspect the rivets...
 

jigngrub

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What kind of shape is your transom wood in? Have you inspected it for rot/water damage?
 

Davo1

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I try to never leave boat sit outside except for a night or two and ensure it is dry when I park it undercover. I tarp it and have it parked under a take down storage shed. No snow or rain gets to the hull area. I have a 22 ft islander, I don't know how to safely get it off the trailer much less rolling it over and looking up through it. How do I prevent from smashing the windshield, stressing or denting hull. Do I pull the engine, how do I do that, when I do that? What has to be rebuilt as far as seals and boots as these were all replaced last year. In order to look through it I would have to pull floor which I may do anyway. Transom has some rot on edges due in part to age and in part to care. 95% of transom and anchor points are still solid. stands up to beating with a hammer and probing with a screwdriver. I also, just to buy time coated all edges and face with a wood cure and sealer. I realize that in order to be a permanent fix I need to pull transom but there are about 700 steps to get to that point of pulling a transom none of which I have ever done. I have looked at many rebuilds on here and they are impressive but the photos tend to skip over many small steps to get to the next phase. My initial thoughts are to take to garage next winter if I have the funding, and have them pull and inspect engine and I will pull transom mainly because I have no idea what I am doing. Once I pull the transom is it customary to have all transom holes in hull welded shut as well as any gunnel cabin or dash holes. It has the usual 30 years of small holes from mounting junk. I notice no bowing or structural weak points in transom but I would like to fix it at some point. Over head cover is another issue. I have only seen one video of anyone converting the boat to a hard top which I would love to do. Of course would also consider the typical bimini top. Where does one find a fit for an Islander.

My dream set up would be the existing 140 hp and the old honda kicker. I want a rocket launcher for rod storage, lighting and trolling planers that I can lay flat. Great lakes planers has these available. A removable hard top, two 3 rod rod trees per side two down riggers, and 3 additional rod holders on track systems per side.

I dont know where to start so this spring i am finishing cabin, replacing glove box. adding stereo, and rod trees, work on trailer, finishing my midlife crisis , entering my senior year of my 45 year pursuit of my bachelors and getting a job before I have to move into the boat cabin because I lost my house. If anyone is bored and wants to work on a project I'd be happy to hold the work light for them. Thanks again for the feedback and my apologies for the long post.
 

jasoutside

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Re: Upgrading Islander

Hey Davo - I was prepping to answer each of your questions but instead I'll just...

http://forums.iboats.com/boat-resto...976-22-starcraft-islander-rebuild-369247.html

It's all there man. Getting it off the trailer, levitation, flipping (tipping actually), engine removal, holes in alum, the whole bit. I tried hard to detail every step with photos and description. If I missed something or was unclear feel free to post up specific questions on my thread or here on yours. Grab yourself a few adult beverages or brew up a pot of coffee and start reading. Take your time.

One comment I will make on your last post there is I think it's best to do it all at once. Fixing one part of the boat only to go back, undo, redo, refix I kinda feel like is sorta spinning your wheels. A bit of a waste of time and $$.

It's just my personal preference though. Me, all or nothing. Do it once, do it right, right from the start. Gut it all and build it awesome, right from scratch. Again, that's me, certainly not the law of the land. Just an opinion.

Happy to help any way I can, all of us are man! You can do it!
 

Davo1

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Thanks I will study the link, I agree I would like to get the majority done all at once or at least group the chores, pull floor, seal bottom and flooring, replace transom and paint bottom of boat. after that I thought I could tackle jobs one at a time. That is why I think I may just redo trailer this spring and summer so I dont lose an entire fishing season with my soon to be senior year fishing partner. I thought it would take me that long to build up the nerve and knowledge to tackle such a project and get my wife used to the boat taking up half the garage.
 

jasoutside

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so I dont lose an entire fishing season with my soon to be senior year fishing partner.

I hear that, great move!

get my wife used to the boat taking up half the garage.

She won't, you just need to get used to her giving you a hard time about the boat. Heck, Mrs. Outside is just now starting to get used to me hanging around, never mind the boat(s)!:noidea:
 
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