Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

[TulsaTime]

Anyone know why the outdrive is kicking up in reverse? I think it may have something to do with a bar or spring not grabbing or engaging? '86 Bayliner, 16ft Capri bowrider, Volvo AQ131A w/ 275 outdrive. We took our maiden voyage over the weekend and it performed outstanding except for the reverse problem.

 

[captmello]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

You'll have to examine your retaining pawl and study how it works. It has two functions. Keeps the outdrive in place during normal operation and it has a locking mechanism for reversing. If you'll see there is also a rod that goes up to the tilt arm on the outdrive. That rod should have a stainless sleeve on the top that is visible when the drive is down. If that is worn/damaged the previous owner may have turned the lock nut, visible below the tilt arm screwed onto the threads of the rod, way up disabling the retaining pawl.

Ask me how I know.

Have a look and see what you find.

Welcome to Iboats btw.

 

[captmello]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

Help my memory, does the 275 have tilt and trim or just electric tilt?

Just electric tilt.

Which brings up a good point, If the motor is tilted up, the reverse lock no longer will work. Thanks Bubba.

Do not allow the outdrive to bounce up and down!!!!

 

[TulsaTime]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

Thanks for the quick replies!! Bubba1235, it's just electric tilt. I'll certainly look for that tilt arm that engages the assembly. Also, I'm not too sure I had the drive in the all-the-way down position. I had to tilt the motor up some when we loaded the boat on the trailer. Thanks again for the information.

 

[Anchor Management 1]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

You need to remove the upper and the lower then remove the mid section,then remove the water intake cap (2 allen head bolts) you will need a press to remove the long shaft that holds the reverse latch and clean it all up and grease it .Then put it back together again.

 

[TulsaTime]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

Anchor Management 1, Are you refering to the tilt arm assembly that engages the reverse lock? And, I'm not sure why I have to take it all apart and put it back together again? I'm missing something here? Is there a part or parts that need replacing?

 

[Anchor Management 1]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

The tube needs to be cleaned along with the reverse latch mech.Your drive is kicking up do to a corroted rev. latch and to do it correctly you will be pulling it apart.

 

[TulsaTime]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

Thanks, if this message is duplicated, please ignore, apparently the server was too busy to post my last response. However, I will do the removal and thorough cleaning and will put it back together properly, cleaned and lubed. Also, do you know if the locking mechanism only works while the outdrive is in the fully down postion?

 

[bruceb58]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

Thanks for the quick replies!! Bubba1235, it's just electric tilt. I'll certainly look for that tilt arm that engages the assembly. Also, I'm not too sure I had the drive in the all-the-way down position. I had to tilt the motor up some when we loaded the boat on the trailer. Thanks again for the information.

If the drive wasn't all the way down then the reverse lock won't engage.

 

[Anchor Management 1]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

Yes it will only work in the full down postion.

 

[TulsaTime]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

A big thanks to bruceb58, Anchor Management 1, captmello & Bubba1235! I think I have enough information to diagnose the problem. FYI, I've almost re-built this entire boat so I know it pretty much inside and out except that reverse problem. I'm sure I'll experience some other minor problems and when I do, I'll be sure and ask you guys. Me and my family appreciate the information. Looks like I get to be the "hero" again this coming weekend. Regards to all.

 

[captmello]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

This is what it should look like. The upper is the foot of the lift mech, below is the rounded head of the sleeve.

If you can't see the top of the sleeve, that could promp someone to wire it open as the pawl wouldn't release when the outdrive was tilted.

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Please post back once you have determined the problem, let us know what happens.

Good luck.

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

You need to remove the upper and the lower then remove the mid section,then remove the water intake cap (2 allen head bolts) you will need a press to remove the long shaft that holds the reverse latch and clean it all up and grease it .Then put it back together again.

While it's not the easiest job in the world, you can rebuild the complete lockdown mechinism while it's on the boat. You do not have to take the drive all apart. Makes it easier, but with some patients and the proper vocabulary (not allowed on these forums) it can be done.
Takes me between 45 minutes to an hour, depending on word choice, to replace the kit that includes the paws, springs, bars, nyocks, arms and washers.

 

[rucaradio]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

I've got an AQ131-D with a 275 leg and the same problem.. Since I'm in the middle of changing the transom/stringers/deck I haven't got into the motor yet.

I noticed most of my Reverse Pawl was missing last year when I purchased the boat, and I was actually able to pick up another "new" intermediate housing and swapped out the whole thing. On land if you grab the outdrive when its in its "down" position you can feel the mechanism lock. In the water while in reverse the leg still kicks up.

I suspect my issue involves the thrust sleeve, which is that little rounded shaft that pokes out of the top of the steering fork. The sleeve is a bit bent over, so I'm going to suck it up, spend the $20 on it, and see if that fixes my problem after my restore gets over.

I seem to remember a previous post in this forum about the "reverse pawl locking mechanism" on Volvo's.. Perhaps Don S. can refresh my memory, but if you do some searching you may find a link to the proper calibration of the mechanism.

 

[TulsaTime]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

captmello, Thanks for the Pic. Is that a photo with the drive in the all the way down position? Mine (at the moment) is at the all the way up position with the transom saver on and the upper shaft piece w/round foot is really long..say about 2 to 3 inches. I can't tell if the lower piece is sticking up or not but I will check it when I lower it down.

Don S, Thanks for injecting a little humor into this....I think we all need to learn how to laugh and not take it so serious sometimes! However, I don't know if my vocabulary has enough JU-JU's to take on that project...if I do, I'll consult my electronic cussing-thesarus! And let you know what new words I've learned.

 

[TulsaTime]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

rucaradio, Thanks for insight.

 

[captmello]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

captmello, Thanks for the Pic. Is that a photo with the drive in the all the way down position?

All the way down.

Once you lower the drive and look for the sleeve. Reach down and try to lift the drive. If it raises up by lifting, the retaining pawl is not working correctly.

 

[rucaradio]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

That is EXACTLY the test that I performed! On the trailer with the leg fully down, I tried to pick the drive up from the skeg and it locked at the pawl.. In the water, put into reverse, the pawl failed and the drive kicked up.. Can't understand it myself.

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

Now that the forum is back, here is the OEM service manual on the 280 drive, it also includes the 275 and how the tilt mechanism works. It takes some time to understand the process, but it is possible.

http://www.4shared.com/account/file...o_DP-C_Drive_manual.html?sId=znf9BtceznAu1wA4

Look at page 127

 

[TulsaTime]

Re: Volvo 275 Kicking Up in Reverse

That is EXACTLY the test that I performed! On the trailer with the leg fully down, I tried to pick the drive up from the skeg and it locked at the pawl.. In the water, put into reverse, the pawl failed and the drive kicked up.. Can't understand it myself.

rucaradio, did you try that with the drive in reverse and not started? If you do try that, please respond with the results.

Don S, Thanks for the link...I'll study that manual. Really appreciate the information!