Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

jclarke2899

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So I have taken my outdrive off for the first time and everything seems to be pretty dry and everything, but tried using my alignment tool and it doesn't even go into the engine coupler at all. I didn't have too much trouble removing the drive, just had to give a few good tugs, but no prying with tools or anything like that. Is it possible the alignment would be this far off? I did hit an unmarked rock in the lake last summer with a stainless prop, but ran it many times since and didn't hear anything unusual. the coupler splines look to be in good condition and so do the driveshaft splines. I wanted to get some other opinions before I started messing with the motor mounts or trying to reinstall the drive. Thanks.
5.0GL charcoal engine with Volvo Cobra SX drive
 

Don S

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

It's possible that old dried up grease can prevent the alignment bar from going in. Usually found if the drive hasn't been off for a few years, or the engine is out of alignment.
sometimes just twisting the alignment bar into the coupler will clean it up. if it's out of alignment it won't work.
 

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

Hi Don, do you think it's possible I have the wrong alignment tool? I just looked and the one I purchased had the following description on ebay

"Engine Alignment Tool for MerCruiser Sterndrives including Pre-Alpha "R", Alpha One "MR", Generation II, all Bravo's, Volvo SX (P/N 3851083) and OMC (P/N 18-4442) Cobra. This Tool is similar to P/N 91-805475A1 which used to be P/N 91-57797A3."

I just looked in my manual and see it calls for 912273. I'm thinking I screwed up on my order??? As of now, I have the pride of taking the drive off for the first time and replacing the bellows and seals.
 

jclarke2899

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

I'm really thinking the alignment tool I have is too big. It doesn't even try to go into the coupler. That's a shame, trying to do the right thing when I had the drive off, guess I'll try to bolt up the drive as is since it didn't have any other evidence of misalignment and then order the exact part number for next year. I figure I'll probably have to replace the bellows again anyway since I used the Sierra brand and I've since read alot of bad things about non-oem bellows.
 

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

Check your bar against these dimensions.

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jclarke2899

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

Eyeing it by a tape measure, my measurements seem to be what you posted, so I guess that means my alignment is way off, I can't believe I was able to pull the drive off if I can't even get this tool in the coupler. Any reason the alignment is listed in the manual as difficult to do? Isn't it just adjusting the nuts up or down on the engine mounts?
 

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

It turns out my alignment was way off and the alignment tool I had was the right tool. Thank you Don, as you kept me from trying to put the drive back in the way it was. The alignment tool wouldn't even enter the coupler, but adjusted the front engine mounts (quite a few turns btw) and the tool enters and exits smooth as butter. It feels good to have done this as this was my first time, and this site helps so much with getting things right.
 

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

Jamie: Your experience sounds like the classic do-it-your-selfer nightmare. I'm glad to hear that everything turned out alright in the end. Would you mind sharing the step-by-step process/experience with those of us who are considering removing their outdrives for the first time (I've read the manuals and the posts regarding this). I noticed that you bought your allignment tool on Ebay. Did you choose that because of cost or is the tool difficult to find? I would like to undertake this myself but your experience is giving me second thoughts.
 

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

Hi SWTobias, it really wasn't too bad in all honesty. I bought the tool on ebay just because it was only $35 and I had read a lot of other people had. My tool is actually an OMC part number which isn't even made anymore. The volvo/merc one fits perfect though. My only fear going into it was that I would need to replace the u-joints and gimbal bearing. Even that probably wouldn't have been so bad, but I'd have to rent the pullers/tools to do them. I was scared I may have had the wrong alignment tool, but it sounds as though most are a pretty standard size. Having never done it before, I got nervous when the alignment tool didn't go in. The engine mounts were really tough to loosen, but once I did, the adjustment was pretty easy, it just takes a bit of time to get straight, as you're constantly jumping inside the boat and then to the back to check alignment. I basically followed my manual to the letter. I used a heavy duty ladder I have to hoist the drive with. It's pretty heavy (~80 lbs), but if you have another set of hands with you when you pull it off to help support the driveshaft, it makes it alot easier. I had my wife support the driveshaft, then just lifted it off and hung it from the ladder out of the way. The kit I bought had the two sets of bellows, water hose seal, driveshaft seals, and a gimbal bearing. I didn't replace the gimbal bearing as the one in there seems to move very well and I keep greased pretty good. There also wasn't any water, so I didn't think it was necessary. I used a Sierra kit, which I've now read quite a few people saying you should buy OEM bellows as the aftermarkets leak. I think there will be a problem with mine as the lip that goes on the gimbal side of the u-joint bellows seems to be too large, basically when you clamp it down, it pops out a little where the screw on the clamp is. I tried installing it different directions and that's the only way it would work. Makes me a little leary of the quality, but figured it should hold for this season. The exhaust bellows said "UP" on the one side, but it seemed to go on good. I went ahead and used them, but will plan on buying OEM one's and replace them at the end of this season. When I had the exhaust bellows off, I looked in there and noticed a flapper on the engine side which was blocking a lot of the exhaust outlet. It was just sitting in there and I read online that Volvo has a TSB out about removing it. I guess it fell off from the Y-pipe. I was able to use some really long needle nose pliers to support it and cut it with some metal shears to get it out of there. Basically, here's what I did:
1. removed dipstick and threaded in a 1/2-13 thread lifting eye (bought on ebay as no hardware stores around had it)
2. removed shift cover, took off the cotter pin and washer cube from the shift cable. Make mental note of where the washer cube sits on the threads of the cable.
3. loosened the screw on the starboard side of the drive that secures the shift cable in place and slid the metal retainer out of the way.
4. removed the end covers, e-clips, and washers from both hydraulic cylinders and used a rubber mallet to push out the pivot rod.
5. removed the 6 locknuts (I used a wrench, but will be purchasing a 5/8" swivel socket for the future, as my manual didn't tell me)
6. pulled the drive back and had wife support the driveshaft. set the whole drive in a sturdy (gladiator) A frame ladder I have using ratcheting straps through the lifting bolt.
7. took off the exhaust bellows which is held on by a hose clamp on the engine side, and by a snap ring on the outdrive side. Note - this snap ring was larger than the snap ring pliers I had from autozone. I luckily was able to use a larger pair of needle nose pliers to get it out, but be careful as it's hard to get a good grip on them.
8. removed the u-joint bellows. If you disconnect the water hose, it's a little easier to replace the u-joint bellows as they are in there together pretty tight, but it can be done without. Made sure everything is seated properly.
9. replaced the water hose seal that came with the kit.
10. checked the gimbal bearing by turning it with my hand (rubber gloves makes it easier to turn by hand, and less messy). I also used my alignment tool to spin the bearing while pumping in new grease (easy if someone else is squirting grease while you spin it)
11. Checked alignement with tool (in my case, it didn't enter the engine coupler) I put a thin layer of grease on the end of the tool and it just touched the splines enough for me to tell which way I needed to move the engine mounts. If spline marks are on top, the engine needs to go down, if on bottom, the engine needs to come up, which was my case.
12. I adjusted my engine mounts up by loosening the top nut on the mount bolt, and then drawing the locknut up to it. I did this about 10 times, in and out of the boat each time to check alignment. Got it to the point where the alignment tool slides in and out really easy and leaves even spline marks in the grease the whole way around the shaft.
13. Cleaned off driveshaft, removed the two seals on it and replaced with new and a coating of oil. Applied Moly grease (found at walmart) to my shaft splines.
14. Pumped new grease into my u-joints and checked to see they moved easily. Put a coat of grease around the tapered end of pinion bearing carrier. (the end where u-joints come out of)
15. Applied some blue threadlocker to 6 mounting studs (it calls for sealing compound, whatever that is)
16. Shifted the drive into gear by moving the eccentric piston arm (not the control by the steering wheel)
17. Lifted the drive back into place, holding up the driveshaft until it was inside the bearing/coupler. Had to wiggle the prop a little to get the splines to line up. Installed the 6 locknuts starting with middle two then one top, other bottom, and vice versa.
18. greased and reinstalled my pivot rod and trim/tilt cylinders the way they were before.
19. reinstalled my shift cable the way it was as well.
20. Started it up and held my breath. I got my shift cable out of adjustment, but will have to play with that some as I've always had some resistance on it.

Anyone have step by step for rebuilding a 2bbl holley carb? That's what I'm up against next I believe.
 

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

Hi Jamie: Thank you for an excellent step-by-step description. That is exactly what will help me if I decide to tackle this job myself. The use of a ladder to hold the outdrive sounds like an excellent idea and the estimate of the weight of the outdrive. Do you have any idea what caused the engine to get out of alignment? You mentioned you hit a rock once, do you think that did it?

That was interesting about the flapper valve. One year after I bought my 98 Larson with the same engine as yours, I started taking on water at a rate the bilge pump couldn't handle. I got the boat back on the trailer and took it to my dealer. The flapper valve had fallen loose and dropped down to the bottom of the 'Y' exhaust yoke and punched (vibrated) a hole through the exhaust pipe, below the water line. When the engine was running the exhaust pressure kept the water out, when I stopped water was pouring in. They had to pull the engine to get to it and replace the exhaust pipe. Luckily it was covered under warrenty. I also upgraded my bilge pump from the grossly under-rated one the dealer had installed.

Good luck on the holley 2 barrel carb re-build. I have the same one on my engine and have thought about it myself. I haven't rebuilt a carb since back in the 60's though.

Thanks again for the excellent description of the outdrive removal and installation.
 

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Re: Volvo Cobra SX Outdrive Alignment

I really have no idea why the alignment was as far off as it was. I first thought I wasn't getting any of the splines marked on the alignemnt tool, but then realized I was getting maybe a 1/2" on the tool. It seemed like it took a lot of turns on the engine mounts, but I could only turn the top nuts about 2-3 clicks on a ratchet each time, so I did about 8-12 (2 click turns) at a time until I got it where I needed it. You have to move the top nut up and wrench the bottom lock nut up to it to actually move the engine btw.
I bought the boat used two years ago from a dealer and very little history was known of the boat, but it was extremely clean for a 1998. Cleaner than a lot of 2006's that I looked at while at the dealer. I realize clean doesn't mean great working order, but made me think if someone was this meticulous about the boat, that they most likely did the recommended maintenance. It only had 102 hours when I bought it, so it was used very little, which is also part of the reason I'd like to rebuild the carb as it probably had old fuel sitting in there alot. I know Volvo calls to check alignment yearly, so there must be something that causes the alignment to get off other than removing the engine. My guess is that engine mounts may sag over time. The drive is meant to kick up when it strikes something in the water to help protect it, but I would imagine a jolt like that could cause some possible alignment issues. I'm sure somebody else on here might have more knowledge on why they get out of alignment though.
The best advice I have is to try it yourself and don't get in a rush to finish. Take your time and do everything by the manual. If you get in trouble, post a question on here and someone will be able to help you out. I love this site and enjoy reading posts of problems and how they were fixed, the only downside is I start to see problems in my boat that aren't there, haha.
 
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