VP 5.7 Fuel Pump/Regulator Issue

MCNPathfinder

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I know this topic is discussed at length, but I'm wondering if maybe I could just run something by the collective here. My boat is a JC Tritoon with the VP 5.7. Had it winterized professionally last year. They change the fuel filter as part of that service. Boat ran flawlessly its last time out for the season.
This year, first time on the water, it was running REALLY rough. Seemed to be backfiring or running lean I think. The fuel pump started whining really loudly. When the engine would stumble and almost die, the fuel pump whining would increase in pitch, and then the engine RPMs would follow and rise.
HOWEVER, sometimes it would run just fine and we could go WOT. Of course, I can't get it to act up on muffs at home. I followed a lot of what ESGWheel talked about in forum posts. I purchased a new fuel regulator. There was definitely debris in the old (assuming paint from the fuel pumps). I cleaned it out with carb cleaner and popped it back in, and the boat runs fine on muffs. I checked fuel pressure at the top of the engine near the FPR and it was at 50 consistently. I tried to check pressure at the fuel pump, but I couldn't get the gauge I rented to work there for some reason.

All that to say. I bought a new fuel pressure regulator as well as a cheap fuel pump set on Amazon. I'm hoping to send in my old fuel pump to get refurbished. I know there's a service bulletin to remove the filter on the FPR and replace with a clip, but I kind of like the idea of having some filtration there. I'm hesitant to put any new parts on the engine just yet because I'm not sure how much more paint chips are going to be stuck in the system.

My thought is that I just lake test it with things as they are. I bring carb cleaner with me and pull the FPR and clean it if it starts acting up. If that doesn't fix it, then I'll swap the fuel pump and put in the new FPR.

Does my logic make sense here? Also, roughly how long does it take to swap the fuel pumps out on these things? Trying to gauge if that's an at home thing or if I could save some time and do it on the lake. Ha!
 

ESGWheel

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Do not do this troubleshooting out on the lake. Reasons: (1) if things do not go back together properly you are stuck needing a tow, and (2) you are playing with gas and if things go south the only escape it to jump in the lake. IMO strong opinion for safety’s sake any T/S and or maintenance should always be done on dry land or at least tied up to your dock.

For your issue, the dreaded pump whine and debris found in the regulator are the tell-tale signs of paint peeling off the inside of the pump as you have already assessed. This also means more then likely your injectors are in need of cleaning as well.

My suggestion:
  • Replace the pump with an aftermarket one (link) as well as the pressure regulator (link). If all is good, then send in your OEM pump to Troy at caveman mechanic (link) for rebuilding. Get it back and put it back in for piece of mind of having the OEM pump and keep the AM pump for a spare.
  • If all not good post AM pump > probably the injectors, so post results after getting in the new pump / regulator.
Also here is a great video on how to check the fuel pump pressure (link).
 
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ESGWheel

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Correction: I see you already got the fuel pump and reg. For how long it takes? About 30 to 60 minutes but need to be careful of a few things:
  • The little wire clip on the electrical plugs can go flying
  • There are water hoses to the pump, make sure these get connected back up
  • The fuel lines into the pump have O-rings, any damage to these need to get new ones
  • The hoses and wiring harness need to be re-zipped tied back up and out of the way from the belt
Good luck and post how it goes!
 

ESGWheel

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Quick follow up: I forgot that Troy also posted pump removal and installation vids if you have not already discovered them. Link and link.
 
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