Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

toddbrown

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I would like to install a wakebaord tower on my 1998 Bayliner capri but I heard thta they can mess up your fiberglass hull. Any thoughts on this?
 

sangerwaker

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Only if they are improperly fitted or installed.
 

toddbrown

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Would you suggest someone else installing it?
 

sangerwaker

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Are you sure you have selected the correct one for your model of boat? If so, and you are comfortaable with drilling holes in your boat, there's nothing wrong with doing it yourself. Just make sure to follow the directions. There are some tricks to not chipping the gelcoat on a glass boat you'll need to know if you don't already. I think that's the part where most of the mistakes are made IMHO.
 

toddbrown

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Ok, actually I have not bought one yet. I am looking for one though, can you suggest a brand? I was looking at the Big Air Pylons company. They are not too pricey and seem like a good tower.
 

RatFish

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

They look nicer than others I have seen in this price range. Let us know how you make out.
 

sangerwaker

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Haven't seen that brand before. One thing I have noticed on some of the "less expensive" brands is the amount of lateral movement. They are solid fore and aft, but are quite sloppy side to side. Be sure to check the rigidity in all directions.
 

WSUDERMAN

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Todd, I added a tower a couple of years ago and this is what i found out...<br />A tower will not mess up your hull if properly installed in hull with at least 3/8" thick fiberglass. Less than 3/8" and you will run the risk of cracking. And by cracking i am not refering to the spider type gel coat cracks but actual fractures in the fiberglass. I have seen the spider cracks develop in ski boats designed for the towers like Air Nautiques and such so to they are probably likely on boats not designed for towers. Currently I have one mount point that developed some spider cracking so far, the other 3 points are not showing any cracks yet.<br /><br />I have heard 2 sides to the Tower Movement issue. One side says no movement at all is best, makes for the most air and helps with the rigidity of the boat. The other says that some lateral side to side movement will allow your tower to flex with your boat hull sides but still keeps 90% of your "line loading" for big air.<br /><br />I do not know which is best, but i do know this... Our friends have an early (2001'ish) Air Nautique(60k boat). Their tower is bolted directly to the hull with no movement allowed in any direction. He has had cracking in the hull deck from about 2003 on. Last year his tower cracked at one of the bends from metal fatigue. Maybe he got a lemon, but the way i see it any metal, alu or steel is much stiffer than fiberglass, so if you put to structures together that have different properties I would allow for some movement, otherwise one of them will give.<br /><br />I think the choice of tower is tougher than the install. Installation was easy. The tower i got had instuctions and included the tips on drilling through the gel coat & fiberglass.<br /><br />Sorry its so long but i hope it helps...
 

toddbrown

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

It does help! I am not a big wakeboarder but I am a skier. I really wouldlike to have the tower to store gear on and use for wakeboarding, when I do it. I also woudld like to have a fishing pole holder on the tower. I may just figure something else out for storage. I have a kneeboard, skis, wakeboard, tube and then jakets and cooler. All, in a 18 foot boat. I may be looking to trade up next season.
 

WSUDERMAN

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

The tower is great for storage. ours holds up our bimini, inflated tube, wakeboards & Skis! all off the floor and out of the way. Besides it makes a great dive platform when swim time comes...
 

toddbrown

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

That is what I need! I just do not want to mess up the hull.
 

salty87

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

the tower is great for storage and don't forget speakers.<br /><br />i, personally, don't let people dive off mine. that put's lateral stress on it and the joints that it wasn't designed for. when someone jumps or dives, they always push off with their feet. if that force were directed in the manner the tower was designed for (reverse pull behind the boat) then they would be diving into the back of the boat and not the side of it.<br /><br />as to the discussion about rigidity, i vote for more rigid. mine is pretty solid but i can tell when more boards are added to the racks or even if the wind is really catching the bimini...the tower will sway a little and even start squeaking a bit. with a less rigid tower, that action will only be more pronounced. i've been on other boats with towers that were so sloppy i was afraid a board would fall out of the rack.<br /><br />for some better install info, and a tower i would recommend for your situation, check out these 2 sites:<br />monstertower.com<br />diytower.com (monster tower runs this site too, great info. can't say enough good things about that company even though i've never bought from them)<br /><br />adding a tower is a great upgrade!
 

tommays

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

depends on who wants to buy boat water skier or day cruiser<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

murphini

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

I put on a Monster Tower to my 89 20'VIP and love it. Installation wasn't too hard, just the guts to actually start drilling into the fiberglass. <br /><br />Run drill backwards, trust me.<br /><br />MonsterTower goes up/down in about 30 secs and works great. I bought a wakeboard rack to hold the board--pricey but WORTH IT to get the room back in the boat. Check out http://www.monstertower.com/customerphotos/VIP.htm <br />Mine is the red one.
 

WSUDERMAN

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Todd, in our area i think it increases resale value because of the market size for your boat increases. I think its because the lakes around here are inland and not huge (Colo. River lakes excluded...) so people primaraly enjoy watersports or fishing.
 

KCSteve

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Ditto on Monster tower. I have a factory installed tower on my boat and I wish I had went with MT. The main thing will be determining if your boats hull is thick enough. As others have said 3/8" min. Monster Tower can probably tell you what the thickness of your boat is. I think most Bayliners are about 1/4" thick therefore you will need to reinforce the hull. Not bashing Bayliners.
 

toddbrown

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

Ok, I will probably let the someone do the installation so that if is not done right, they can fix it.
 

wgander

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Re: Wakeboard tower and fiberglass

I added a tower to my 1998 Capri 1950CL several years ago. No signs of cracks on the hull. It can fold flat if you garage the boat. I've never folded it and the boat's been trailered hundreds of miles on several trips. Installation took several hours. Most of the time was spent deciding where to place the mounts so that we'd have access to get to the backing plates. <br /> http://members.cox.net/wgander/family_boat.htm
 
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