Wally World on wellfair day.......

[bruceb58]

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I can tell you that if I am on the fence regarding candidates from both sides, your yapping will weigh heavily.

Gee..that is an intelligent way to vote!

Fortuantely, not many eligible voters with this type of intelligence actually end up voting.

 

[CJY]

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Gee..that is an intelligent way to vote!

Fortuantely, not many eligible voters with this type of intelligence actually end up voting.

Did you even read the post? If/when you are on the fence, don't you have to use something as the deciding factor. All else considered, give me your words of wisdom regarding a split decision.

Speaking of intelligence, I think you mean fortunately.

 

[bruceb58]

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Did you even read the post? If/when you are on the fence, don't you have to use something as the deciding factor.

Yes, but I wouldn't be using the "yapping" of someone on a boat forum to help make my vote decision one way or the other...let alone "weigh heavily". That is just plain idiotic.

But then again...

...read my signature below!

 

[bruceb58]

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CJY,

By the way, I like your signature...too bad all politicians aren't all as honest!

 

[JB]

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I used to jump to conclusions when I saw that sort of thing at the checkout line. I even used to get angry when I mistook my conclusions for facts.

I rebuked a middle aged lady in the line once about it. Her reply shut me up forever: She smiled and explained that some of the more expensive items were for her family. The rest were for the elderly folks in her neighborhood who had no cars and no money for gas if they had a car. They gave her the stamps and want lists and she did their shopping for them. She bought what was on the lists whether there were enough stamps or not.

Stereotype? Dang right. There must be a lot that fit, but there are also obviously some that don't.

Are you guys ranting about what you KNOW or merely what you have assumed?

 

[CJY]

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Yes, but I wouldn't be using the "yapping" of someone on a boat forum to help make my vote decision one way or the other...let alone "weigh heavily". That is just plain idiotic.

But then again...

...read my signature below!

I see you fell short on your own words of wisdom regarding deciding factors. Not having a plan at all, is a bit more idiotic.

BTW, I read you sig and I like the fact that you model it. At least you are not a hypocrite.

Regarding my sig, honest, maybe. A better description would be, honestly stupid. If you believe everything W says is nothing more than honesty, you model your sig very well.

 

[treedancer]

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Quote JB

Are you guys ranting about what you KNOW or merely what you have assumed?



Well-stated JB.

 

[Limited-Time]

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I used to jump to conclusions when I saw that sort of thing at the checkout line. I even used to get angry when I mistook my conclusions for facts.

I rebuked a middle aged lady in the line once about it. Her reply shut me up forever: She smiled and explained that some of the more expensive items were for her family. The rest were for the elderly folks in her neighborhood who had no cars and no money for gas if they had a car. They gave her the stamps and want lists and she did their shopping for them. She bought what was on the lists whether there were enough stamps or not.

Stereotype? Dang right. There must be a lot that fit, but there are also obviously some that don't.

Are you guys ranting about what you KNOW or merely what you have assumed?

If you re-read my 2 post nowhere will you see me questioning the use of the food stamp system. Rather I questioned the choices made by those using them.

 

[Mark42]

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So what does it take to qualify for food stamps? Exactly how crappy does my situation have to be?

I'm pretty sure I don't qualify. And I am happy for that.

Just ignore the people who don't spend their food stamps the way you would. And be thankful you are not in their shoes.

 

[bruceb58]

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Not having a plan at all, is a bit more idiotic.

LOL...whatever you say!

I don't recall saying anything about "deciding factors"...I believe those were your words.

 

[POINTER94]

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JB,

This is at least the third or fourth example of an abuse of the system. Not everyone is buying lottery tickets for elderly shut ins who can't get them on their own.

I just can't imagine putting myself in a position where I would be so cavilier about buying food with stamps and beer with cash. I can't imagine having to even accepting a program like this. But there are some who truely need it. There are many who don't and abuse all of us, but mainly those who do need a hand up. I remember a couple years back, they were litterly advertising for people to come on down and get their free handouts, because budgets were set on how many were on the dole and the numbers were getting low. Typical government programs. How sad.

 

[studlymandingo]

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This is something that sickens me daily. I own a few properties in town that are in "up-and-coming" neighborhoods. These houses I bought in deplorable shape, and put my own sweat and money into COMPLETE renovations, new bathrooms, kitchens, windows, flooring, A/C, etc; made all of them as nice as what I would live in myself. We tried renting a couple of them out to Section 8 tenants... I am currently renovating one of the houses AGAIN after only 6 months. I had to rip up a bunch of flooring (I don't put carpet in living areas) reface the kitchen cabinets, paint the entire interior, new screens in 5 windows (brand new screens and windows when they moved in), replace the stove, and buy a new refridgerator and water heater (that's right both the fridge and water heater were missing when we went into the property. We had to pay a 380.00 water bill because the tenants had not paid their water bill (or electric for that matter, they owed 760.00 on that) and the meter had been removed after the lock being cut numerous times. All in all, their 6 month tenure in this particular property is going to cost me around 6,000.00. The money I received from Sec 8 didn't completely cover the mortgage on the property and now it is vacant while I am finishing up the renovations. The wife is on disability for back troubles yet somehow she was able to bowl on 2 leagues on two seperate nights! The husband...he wasn't even supposed to be living there; he had recently completed a stint in jail. Perfectly healthy male in his early thirties, said he didn't feel like working; claimed he was "owed" because of being incarcerated. These people had a huge plasma screen TV and a regulation sized pool table in their living room, yet stuck us with a ton of bills and a trashed house. Our other Section 8 house is in a similar state of disrepair except there are still tenants in the house, 8 of them in a 2 BR to be exact. THEY have an Escalade with "dubs" and a Lexus sitting in the driveway.

All day long in these neighborhoods there are perfectly healthy young men sitting on the front porch or on the corner. Our welfare system is supporting this. Some kind of legislation needs to be passed that requires people to be qualified for assistance; if you're able to work...NO WELFARE!!!

I am trying to do my part to enact change; I try to provide housing to people that is affordable. I was recently criticized when I went to a homelessness summit at the city; I proposed a housing plan that helped people secure affordable housing by building sweat equity in the home. A supposed "advocate" said the plan was discriminatory as it required people to be active participants in the construction of their own home. Give me a break!!! I work for everything I have, I own a small business that is taxed to the limits of my sanity! It is very disheartening to be busting my ***** working on a house that has been trashed by an ungrateful SOB, while a bunch of idiots are hanging on the corner, supported by MY TAX DOLLARS, slangin' and hustling. This mentality is passed on from generation to generation; there is a serious leak in our welfare system, and the only fix is to pull the plug, drain the whole thing, and start over!​

 

[ricksrster]

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These people can take the jobs that illegal immigrants are doing. Send the illegals back home and but our uppity bums on welfare to work!

 

[POINTER94]

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Quote the stud:

This mentality is passed on from generation to generation; there is a serious leak in our welfare system, and the only fix is to pull the plug, drain the whole thing, and start over!

This sums it up. It is no longer that these slugs are simply life long leachs on the system, it is now generational. Every liberal in Washington knows this. But instead of "assisting" people, they enslave them with their own weaknesses and call it caring. I have had several opportunities to invest into what would have been profitable rental properties, but after hearing horror stories about what people feel entitled to, and the near impossible path it takes to evict someone in Wisconsin, I just walked away. I just don't have the patience, money or legal expertise. And the emboldened state in which these people abuse the system has become alarming. The "right" to free money on the backs of real workers is an insult.

There are people who genuinely need this type of assistance, and we need to make it available. The problem is, there are tangible rewards to politicians to ensure that people remain "addicted" to these entitlements.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Stud, BTDT.
Brand new 32X72 DW mobile home set up for HUD.
Got tenants in there and in 6 weeks had destroyed it.
Holes in the walls, carpet with burn places from whatever

I called HUD and had them come out and look, 1 week later thses cats were gone.
I ask HUD about some help on the repairs, they laughed.
That ended that. Told them to take my name off the list of HUD landlords.
Never again. Try to help someone and that is what you get.
Fixed it up and the youngest daughter lives in it now.

 

[CJY]

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LOL...whatever you say!

I don't recall saying anything about "deciding factors"...I believe those were your words.

Yes, they were my words. I gave my thoughts on my "deciding factor," and you were critical of it, which is great. However, I asked you to enlighten me when it comes to more appropriate deciding factors. I am here to learn, tell me what I should use or consider. I'm open to ideas. For some reason, you have not posted any, which can only lead me to believe you don't have any, or you realize the mistake you have made in this thread. I certainly see it and I am simply waiting for you to enlighten me.

I think you are smart enough to realize you are between a rock and a hard place. You simply were not smart enough to keep from getting into that position. But then again, you are not a hypocrite, are you?

So again, please enlighten me on "deciding factors," you have deemed to be more appropriate than the one I have given. After being so critical of mine, you must have something...anything?

 

[Kiwi Phil]

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We have a strong Social Security system in this Country.
There are many different benefits available... unemployment.... pensioner..... disability.... child support suppliments etc etc..
The income they recieve is pretty much the poverty level benchmark.
Some make a career of not working and living on benefits, and they get away with it.
I am of the opinion it is better to give these people a benefit, health care, educate their kids etc than just let them 'float'.
It is sort of what divides us from the 3rd World.....the manner in which we treat our poor.
Dosn't matter what they spend the money on....it goes straight back in to the system so it creates 10% Goods and Services Tax to the Govt..... employment in retail and service sectors... and it makes me feel better.
So I live with it.
Cheers
Phillip

 

[BoatBuoy]

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So many here whining about the abuse of "entitlement" programs, while we're pouring money and American lives into the Republicans favorite program - Iraq. And they're wanting to take 2 weeks off this summer. Now that's pulling serious vacuum on the Republican sugar-***.

 

[studlymandingo]

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It's one thing to be unable to work and needing assistance; there are people that need to be taken care of. It's those who can work but choose not to because they are lazy that pi$$ me off royally. Even worse, they go in and trash someone elses' property because they just don't care; steal appliances because they feel "entitled". That is just common thievery and trashiness. This is what gets me, these people are sitting at home all day doing nothing; they could at the very least keep their house clean. Just because you are living on assistance doesn't mean you can't be sanitary and it certainly doesn't mean you have to try and screw everyone else as well.

We (the working) are paying the way for these people; a little courtesy and respect for that would go a long way. Not deliberately trashing a house and stealing from the homeowner. Buying groceries on foodstamps and loading them into your new Caddy is insulting as well.​

 

[waterinthefuel]

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Just more BS. If you detest gov programs so much, get your majority together and put an end to it.

I don't detest gov't programs like that, I DETEST THE ABUSE OF SAID PROGRAMS!!