Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

soulriderleo

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I recently purchased this used motor and while starting it with a hose connected i saw water coming out of the upper Spark Plug hole on 1986 Mariner while running? Is that common?
 

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

NO. SERIAL number and PICS.
 

soulriderleo

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

NO. SERIAL number and PICS.

The Serial #A150498
Here is one pic of the top spark plug with water coming out of it(kind of hard to see)?
The second pic is the hose connection at the top of the engine where the water come out as well. That connection leaks a lot but is different than the leak at spark plug. Can I seal up around that connection to stop that portion?
I can also make a video if that helps?

Thank you!!!

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joed

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

There are no circumstance where water should come out of a s park plug hole. that means two things. Water is getting into the cylinder and the spark plug is loose. The plug should seal the hole and water should not be getting into the cylinder.
I only see one picture.
 

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

If the water is coming out of the waterjacket at the mating surface near the spark plug, it is a very common issue. Seal it with some silicone caulk and move on. If the water comes out of the spark plug hole, that is a different matter.
 

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

Ok, so here are a couple more close-up oics of the top spark plug area.
The 1st pic is just a close-up and the 2nd pic is at an angle showing a small indent at about the 7 o'clock location where the "Water Jacket"? seals up to the engine?? I see that they put some Orange Gasket Sealer of some sort there? maybe trying to seal it up? If its coming out of the area, does it mean that water is behind that cover but NOT in the cylinders?? I dont notice any water on the spark plug itself when I remove it.
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***So I stuck a piece of clothes hanger in that hole and it went in about 3"?? Does that mean it is going into the cylinder area or is that the waterjacket at the mating surface near the spark plug? Like I said, i don't notice the spark plug being watery wet when I remove it?

After more digging to remove some of that gasket seal, there is actually a big eroded cavity there?
Again, there is still real good compression in that cyilinder.
What should I use to seal up that hole/crevis? It will have to withstand heat and pressure.


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JDusza

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

Take the water jacket cover off, clean the seat and replace the gasket. The seat is about 6 mm wide. What's shown in the picture is not the functional area...(?) The functional areas are hidden between the parts. Open it up and take a look at the other guy's handi-work.
And, you'll see what's behind there.
 

emckelvy

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

I dunno if I'd want to even mess with the cover. Take a look at the first set of pics, you'll see that one of the cover bolts already has the head sheared off. And look at the salt deposits around that bolt. You can imagine what's around every other bolt holding that cover to the block!

I'd wager that almost every bolt will break trying to take it apart, even if heat is used.

On this type of block, the cylinders and block are cast as one integral unit. The flat pad you see where the spark plug screws into is part of the cylinder and is machined flat, along with the block.

The pad is round in shape and the last set of pics shows the edge of the pad which has eroded back to almost the spark plug hole.

Normally the water jacket cover & gasket form a nice seal against the 4 flat pads. In this case, yours are getting eaten up by corrosion, the metal just gets all nasty/flakey and goes away. Seen quite a few Salty Dogs do this.

Just removing the cover and installing a new gasket sure ain't gonna make this bugger seal up!

If you were able to get the cover off, you'd proably have to try and build-up the rotten area with weld, but that's pretty dicey since there's not much left to work with. Might possibly be able to use some RTV (Hi-Temp Red or Ultra Grey) on the inside, coupled with a skin of RTV on the outer side once it was bolted back up. That "plug" of RTV will probably hold pressure since it's usually no more than 10-12 psi.

But what I'd try doing first, before removing the cover, is clean the eroded area the best you can. A good spray of carb cleaner should degrease pretty well.

Then, run a bead of RTV in there. Try to push some RTV in the eroded area with your finger, once it hardens it'll help plug the hole.

Red Hi-Temp RTV works pretty well, but there's a newer-type that's pretty hi-strength, the Ultra Grey. So maybe try some of that.

You don't really have much to lose except the cost of a tube of RTV and if it does work, it's a far less intrusive repair than removing the cover.

Those bolts look like they're in there so bad that you'd probably have to pull the powerhead to gain enough access to the bottom bolts. Usually you wouldn't have to, if they'd come out easily. But I can guarantee ya, these ain't those! They'll fight you all the way. Then it's the joy of drilling and tapping a bunch of busted bolts!!!!

BTW the other hole is factory-drilled and if I recall, can be used for an optional temperature gage. No need to worry about it, as it's supposed to be there.

HTH & G'luck..........ed
 

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

Wow guys! Thanks for all the advice! I really appreciate it! Yeah, im thinking of just cleaning it real good and fixing with Marine Tex or JB Weld or the RTV Ultra Grey? Thoughts?
I don't want to attempt a head removal. There are already a few of those bolts rusted and one head already broken off. Way to risky.
 

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

Is there a certain JB Weld product? I see many options? Should I use the regular stuff or High Heat since its on the cylinder head area?
 

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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

Hey guys, heres a pic and an update on my Mariner/Merc water jacket repair.
I used JB Weld as reccomended, and after letting it cure for 2 days, I hooked up the flush device and started it up.
Mission accomplished!! No leaks. Hopefully this will hold me over till I can afford a much newer/nicer motor.
Thanks for all the advice!!
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Re: Water coming out of Spark Plugs on 1986 Mariner while running

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