water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

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safetyj

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1976 135 hp johnson v4 seahorse. Water sprays from one side of upper exhaust under power head (pic). The other side only emits a small amount of water, sometimes only a mist. the side with low flow has a wire coming from the head that is not connected (pic). does this wire go to a thermostat to allow water flow at oper. temp ? If so, where is the thermostat ? Ive never heard a overheat warning horn (dont know if this even has one). please help...thank you!
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

You never will hear an overheating alarm with that wire disconnected. It goes to the sensor that trips the horn.
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

thank you ! I really appreciate your advice. Do you know where the sensor is exactly ?
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

The sensor is a temperature switch that is in the cylinder head. It is connected to the tan wire in your picture. There is only one on the 1976 V4, so the other cylinder bank could burn up with no warning.
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

That water is only spitting from oner side of the exhaust relief does not tell you much, but both sides should flow on the water when you are running.

The 1976 system only has one 105 degree thermostat (vernatherm). Click the thumbnail for a diagram.

There are water passage deflectors in each cylinder bank that may require service.
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

There is the same thing (brown wire) on the other cylinder bank, it is connected and disappears into the wire bundle. Do I connect the brown wire to the battery pos.? Im sorry if my questions sound stupid, but Im new to outboards. Also do you have any advice on my water/exhaust situation ? thank you very much
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

The temp switch is at the end of the brown wire, nested in the head. When that switch senses 212 degrees, it will short to ground, sounding the warning horn in the control box. When the powerhead temp goes back down to 175 degrees, the switch will open and the horn will quit sounding. On that 76 engine, you should have only one switch, (it is possible that a late 76 might have two switches-one in each head.) A brown lead with a knife end on it. It will connect to another brown lead with the same knife connection in the powerhead main engine harness. Usually the wire end has a round black rubber boot which surrounds and protects the connection. There should be a mist which comes out of the two exhaust relief ports at the top of the midsection. When starting cold, the thermostat will open after a minute or so, and immediately a watery mist will start to come out of those ports. When that happens, you know the vernatherm (thermostat) has opened. Usually the misting is similar out of both ports. If the engine is new to you or you have never serviced the vernatherm, you might want to change it and check the pressure relief valve at the same time. This is not always an easy job on a bubble back engine.
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

Thank you emdsapmgr, I greatly appreciate your advice. I believe my engine has 2 switches, the wire coming from the cylinder head on the other side is the same and has the black rubber boot just as you described. Today I will try to find the right wire to attach the disconnected switch to and test the warning horn. Should it work if I turn the key to the on position and manually ground the switches connecting wire ?
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

Yes, grounding the harness side of both of the knife ends will turn on the horn, It's a good/simple way to make sure the horn works.
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

I tried it and my horn did not work. How do I hook up a temp gauge ?
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

Possible the horn in the control box is not working. Probably not suprising, considering it's age. You may need to pull the box apart to test it. There was never a proper provision for a temp guage setup on this engine. Most purchase a temp sender and an aluminum "J" bracket. The bracket can be mounted with one of the small head cover bolts and will hold the sender tip in flat contact with the cylinder head. Sounds unusual, but it works. Later models have a tapped hole in the head casting for the sender mounting. Make sure the sender is compatible with the gauge you purchase. Since you only have one vernatherm (thermostat) you only need one temp sender for the whole engine.
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

I took the control box apart and tested the horn again with a wire straight from the battery. It sounded off and I nearly fell out of the boat! the power feed wire was cut. Also, the tan wire on the harness side to the horn was not functioning properly. It would complete the circuit every time I touched power to the horn. I unhooked it and re-wired everything, tested it, and it is working good now. Im not too good with electrical stuff so I was out there till 2am, but it is done and now i'll have more peace of mind next time I take her out. I could never have done it without your help, thank you very much, your the man. Next I need to find the fuel leak, gas is pooling under the cowling. there are zip ties on the hoses, I'll start there. Thanks again!...................safetyj
 

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Re: water flow question 76' johnson 135 v4

That water is only spitting from oner side of the exhaust relief does not tell you much, but both sides should flow on the water when you are running.

The 1976 system only has one 105 degree thermostat (vernatherm). Click the thumbnail for a diagram.

There are water passage deflectors in each cylinder bank that may require service.
Wow! I have a manual, and this picture is way better than what I can see. Where did you find this picture?
 
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