water/fuel seperator

[boater1234]

Re: water/fuel seperator

I just ended up putting the bulb primer after the filter so it's hopefully going to work good.It just made more sense after looking at it.

 

[boscoe99]

Re: water/fuel seperator

Regarding operation, it does not make a rats *** where the primer ball is mounted in relation to the filter.

But, having the primer ball between the filter and the tank will make it much easier to refill the filter following a filter element change.

Call the filter maker (Racor/Parker-Hanifin for instance) and see what they have to say. I am betting they will say that it won't matter.

Regarding installation instructions, very seldom do the "engineers" write the instructions. Instructions are typically written by technical publications folks. Within a technical publications department there can be differing opinions as to how things should be done. Even within an engineering organization there can be differing opinions.

Take Yamaha for example. For years and years they were saying "no AGM batteries with our motors". People were using them anyway and they worked just fine. Now, after years of saying "don't do it" Yamaha has reversed their position and now say "it is just fine". Same thing with MCA/CCA battery requirements. What once was not OK miraculously is now OK. Even with the same older motors.

 

[boscoe99]

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Before the filter is internet "opinion". The other way is manufacturer's recommendation. Whether you believe the internet or the engineers is your option.

Non-ethanol gas is what we all used to use, and back in those days a gunked up system was common. E-10 will guarantee a clean system and thus no problems with the filter anyway. Also, minor water entrainment will be absorbed by the alcohol.

What if a fuel systems "engineer" posts on the internet? Is his position correct within his engineering organization but wrong on the internet?

 

[boater1234]

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That's what i was thinking that it really doesn't matter but i just did it after the filter to the engine and it filled up the filter with no issue.I fig it made a bit of sense that at least the bulb would be cleaner if any issues arose in time.The filter will keep the whole system clean so any gunk will not sit in the bulb and will be filtered out if there is any issues with my tank in time,if that makes any sense.I just thought of it that way,but i guess there is no right or wrong way.I'm starting to wonder is it better to use non ethanol gas or ethanol gas if the engine is going to be used 3 to 5days a week so the gas will never sit long plus i do know the ethanol does act as a cleaner.Any opinions on that or just stick with the non ethanol fuel if available?

 

[boater1234]

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Ok i have a small issue before i go out tom.I put those cheap clamps on the hoses and i'm afraid it will tear a hole in time for the gas to leak.When i tightened the clamps you can see the clamp imbedded into the hose and i don't like the looks of it.I just went out to my local auto part store to get clamps that won't imbed into the hose and now i want to switch the clamps out.How do i depressurize the system so i can cut a small piece of hose and reclamp new clamps on that i know won't fray the hose.I already detached it from the gas tank so what do i do now so gas won't go all over or spray out?

 

[JimS123]

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What if a fuel systems "engineer" posts on the internet? Is his position correct within his engineering organization but wrong on the internet?

The engineer is right in both cases. Is the internet guy really an engineer, or a wannabee?

 

[JimS123]

Re: water/fuel seperator

That's what i was thinking that it really doesn't matter but i just did it after the filter to the engine and it filled up the filter with no issue.I fig it made a bit of sense that at least the bulb would be cleaner if any issues arose in time.The filter will keep the whole system clean so any gunk will not sit in the bulb and will be filtered out if there is any issues with my tank in time,if that makes any sense.I just thought of it that way,but i guess there is no right or wrong way.I'm starting to wonder is it better to use non ethanol gas or ethanol gas if the engine is going to be used 3 to 5days a week so the gas will never sit long plus i do know the ethanol does act as a cleaner.Any opinions on that or just stick with the non ethanol fuel if available?

Nothing sits in the bulb if the motor is run. If its not run anything that is sitting is sitting in the rest of the line as well.

The logic behind placement amounts to whether its better to feed the filter with suction or with positive pressure. Maybe it doesn't matter, but then again the engineers that designed it spoke to that in their instructions.

Ethanol or non is up to you, just don't switch back and forth willy nilly. For me its economics. Calculate cost per mile and choose the one that is cost effective. Also, do you want to run with higher octane? What's the motor manual tell you to run?

 

[JimS123]

Re: water/fuel seperator

Ok i have a small issue before i go out tom.I put those cheap clamps on the hoses and i'm afraid it will tear a hole in time for the gas to leak.When i tightened the clamps you can see the clamp imbedded into the hose and i don't like the looks of it.I just went out to my local auto part store to get clamps that won't imbed into the hose and now i want to switch the clamps out.How do i depressurize the system so i can cut a small piece of hose and reclamp new clamps on that i know won't fray the hose.I already detached it from the gas tank so what do i do now so gas won't go all over or spray out?

Wrap the connector with a paper towel, and then release the pressure by pushing in the check valve ball with a flat punch. Put on rubber gloves if your skin doesn't like gas. Take the tank out of the boat and go away from the house when you do it. When you remove the old clamps cut off 1/2" of hose and start fresh.

Or, just leave it alone. Mine all look that way.

 

[99yam40]

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come on now guys, just start the motor and it will pull the pressure out of the line.
Not that hard to do

 

[boater1234]

Re: water/fuel seperator

Just a curious question?Will a inline disposable filter work just as good on such a small engine,also is anyone using an inline filter and had good results or any issues with them?