Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

[Johnny Be Cool]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

As I understand correctly. You are refering to the end where the filter screws into the block, not the bottom of the filter that points to the bilge. I never heard of a PIN WRENCH. In other words, get some sort of tool (chisel) that I can tap at one of the oil holes in the filter case to see if I can spin it around. That's a GREAT good idea! First, I'm gonna try the wrenchs I bought last night, then give your idea a shot. It's still gonna be pretty tight. I can hardly get 2 hands in the same area. Thank you for your reply!

 

[stormrider]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

Keep turning the engine over periodically while you are working (and squirt some Marvel Mystery Oil down the cylinders). I got your pics, but didn't have time to look them over real well but I agree that the block looks fresh. Heres a way to test the manifolds on the engine:
1. Seperate riser from manifold (4 long bolts)
2. Carefully pour water into the thin ports that surround the main exhaust outlet(big hole on center)until they are full. DO NOT pour any water down the center.
3. watch for water level to go down. If it does go down, then you have a cracked exhaust manifold. No way to repair, just replace. You can buy them on Iboats site, IIRC.
EDIT** if water level goes down, you will have water in your cylinders--be sure to turn engine and squirt it out of your spark plug holes.

After the test, you will need to replace the riser to manifold gaskets.

 

[sqbtr]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

In America, Pin Wrench = Spanner wrench

 

[Johnny Be Cool]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

SPQRT--Regarding the spanner wrench, now I understand what your talking about. However, the pins are 3/16th in circumference, my filter holes are 1/8th". I guess I can file it down?

Stormrider--Thanks, good explanation, I'll look for gaskets and get to it.

 

[fuzzybob]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

Not trying to be a S-A but are you sure you're turning the wrench the right direction? Good luck

 

[Johnny Be Cool]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

Was able to finally get that ______ filter off with a med size filter plyer and a lot of sweat.

I put in fresh oil, a jar of sea foam, new filter and installed the stater. While cranking, the motor turns easy and oil pressure goes up to 40 psi.

Did a compression test, anyone please let me know if they are in acceptable range. On the lowest reading I did it 3 times and let it sit for a 1/2 hour with no noticable drop in pressure.

Here's the reading as follows:

Front of boat
left right
195 210
190 200
215 185
215 200

Note: When this incident first happened, I pulled the plugs and most of the water came out of the left bottom 2 and the right top 2.

I ordered the riser gaskets and will do a gravity test to see if the water will drop and into what cylinder.

To date, I want thank everyone for their input, it's great being able to communicate like this. I wouldn't of known what to do without this site. I truly appreciate everyone's help!!!!!

Any other thoughts or input, please advise.
Thanks.

 

[Johnny Be Cool]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

Anybody out there have an opinion about the compression test?

I'm thinking there are several ways to go from here:

My 1st thought is, if the compression readings are good. Does that mean that there is NO cracked block, head or blown head gasket.
What's your opinion about that?

Since there was water in the cylinders on both banks.
I've been advised that the intake could be cracked and its getting in via the runners. It's an aluminum intake.

I originally thought that the prior owner always backed into his slip and since he always had to throw it into gear under a higher idel, water got in thru the flapper valves (since both banks had water).

Also, someone mentioned that the water may of came in via exhaust manifolds. Is it possible that both sides have gone bad at the same time?

I yet to start the motor, I just don't want a repeat of how this whole thing started. I have no doubt it will start. Or do I start it and see where the 1st signs of water intrusion begins.

Some Help Please!!!!

 

[stormrider]

Re: Water in cylinders -HELP-what to do!!!!!!!

Check your email....