water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

[josh6780]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

You think if I put in a splash well? It will help? Then I can just put a blidge pump in that.

 

[studlymandingo]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

A splashwell is probably a good idea.

 

[josh6780]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

but if the water keeps flowing it will just flow over the splash well won't it? Or could I do something like a bulwark but instead extended the back or the whole boat about as this has one of those dock bumper buoys and line some buoys under it. that way I can still keep the boat level. I could also put rod holds on top or something. What do you think? Or am I making this problem bigger to me than it really is?

 

[Paul Moir]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

The 18hp is near identical to the 25hp and weighs the same. Unless you've got electric start on one and not on the other but that only adds 15lbs (minus battery). <br />EDIT: Sorry, somehow I missed that you were aware of that in your first post.<br /><br />The idea for the splashwell is to make up the freeboard lost with the transom cutout by raising the inside end up to the hight of the normal transom line or sometimes even higher. If you're only loosing an inch to it then it's not worth it. <br />Following seas are especially dangerous to small boats so it's important to steer into the waves. Remember, the boat will float on top of the big swells, it's the short large ones that are a problem. And fortunately, if they do break over your boat it's usually over quickly. Being struck from the side can turn bad very fast as the boat can roll over.

 

[Terry Olson]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

I'm not sure if you're making more of this than you should or simply need a bigger boat for the water you're on. Given your concern I'd think you'd be more comfortable in something bigger. Then again, some problem-free time on the water in this rig might make you more comfortable. <br /><br />I know this isn't all that helpful, but it might get you thinking about alternatives. Do you boat when the water is cold and hypothermia might be a concern? Do you boat with kids, elderly people, or people who can't swim? There are a lot of reasons to give this serious thought. If swamping only means you getting wet I'd say play with it but if you do any of the things mentioned it's time for a boat you KNOW is safe. <br /><br />Most of the time when I've done something I later regretted there was reason to know that it could or would turn out to be something I regretted. Either I failed to recognize that potential or I ignored it. Weigh the risk and ask yourself if the potential gain is worth the potential negative outcomes and in doing so you'll know what the right thing to do is

 

[bigbad 4cyl x2]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

ive read about a few cases of people dying due to this back swamping . please dont take anyone out in a boat with all this going on. if you have to, be very prepared with the flotation etc. some guy in alaska lost his two kids etc . it would suck to live after loosing your two kids cause you pushed the limits . i rented a boat [small aluminum] and put the motor in reverse in middle of lake . after that i baught a biger boat with lots of free board and a deep v.

 

[flashback]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

josh, what everyone is saying is "keep your eyes open and be safe" any boat can swamp and sink, the Titannic did it and it's a whole lot bigger than yours. yea it had a huge hole tore in it, but it went down... you have a lot of good advise here, just listen and you will be OK... Just be mindful of your environment........

 

[NC22]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

If you are not concerned with the overall look, I have seen people that have taken rain gutters and cut them down and mounted them upside down on the transom for splash gaurds. Very affordable quick fix.

 

[josh6780]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

I thank you for all the safety advice but I'm not stupid. I do not want to loose my engine over stupidity. I would never take anyone out on the boat till I know it is safe. I have only been out on it one time bymyself after I had just fixed it and have not been out on it again. And will not till I come up with something. I cannot afford a bigger boat. I know there is a solution to my problem. I really don't think it's that big of a deal to solve it. I just came on here for your help and advice on how to SOLVE the problem. My goal is to not have to worry about big waves sawmping me while I am pulling in a monster bass. Now here is my Idea that I think will look good and work. But it might not so I need your suggestions<br /><br />I can get a splash guard for the back. And do something like a bulwark but instead extend from the back to about half way or so towards the front of the boat with wood that will be about 1 foot wide and line some buoys or some kind of floation under it. that way I can still keep the boat level. And if water does come over it should not ever start rushing in. I could also put rod holders, cup holders ect...on top or something.<br /><br />Do you think this is a stupid Idea? Will it help at all?

 

[bigbad 4cyl x2]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

they have cool snow machine races across the lake in the summer in alaska the snow machines enter the water full bore and with the throttle pegged they skim across the water . they actualy do laps and the winner gets somthing . they tie empty bleach bottles to the handelbars with some thin but strong line . like a bouy , then if the machine stalls or sinks the bleach bottle floats to the top and they winch out the machine . i doubt you will capsize . but i do belive most small boat sinkings are due to being swamped from the back . i wish i could put more smilley faces in here as its hard to type with a cheer .

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

I was a bit cocky in a few statements eailer on, you see i spent many summer's on a lake with just that type of boat.<br /><br /> It's strength's are very quick response time in turns, it is fast as to jetting out of trouble, it's realativley light and will roll with a lot of bery large waves.<br /> <br /> You need to learn how to handle it and how versatile it really is, Then if your still concerned add 2 lb foam underneath the bench seats, you will be almost unsinkalbe. I would say unsinkable but that statement is a very bad thought. It will give you false confidence.<br /><br />No matter what boat you have, how big the dam thing is and how many safety device's you have in place none of these are a substitute for being aware of what you in and what's around you bass, women, ummm men? lol ALWAY'S BE AWARE....

 

[josh6780]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

Yeah, being swamped from the back is the only place on the boat that there is to be swaped. I don't have to worry about that. I can just get a splash guard.<br /><br />The only thing that is around me are some large boat waves everyonce in a while. Again. Thanks but im not an idiot. I know about saftey.<br /><br />well no one is still answer my question. Do you think my idea it will help or not. Thats all im asking.

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

I had an ancient 12 foot jon boat with an even more ancient 6hp on it. It used to leak, and as a small child I used to love watching the water in the back swoosh back and forth while I was joyriding in the cove. I took one turn a little too hard and was swamped in the back. Within 5 seconds I went from a joyful happy little boy to a crying, screaming, scared and lonely child. Thank god the boat had foam under the seats. The engine never stopped idling and I used my trolling motor to get home because the boat was tipping over when I'd try to get to the big engine.<br /><br />As far as your idea, dude, try it. If it works, great,if not, a lesson learned.<br /><br />Don't underestimate the sinkability of a small boat. I am now very nervous with even a few drops in my bilge. A lesson learned from many many years ago! Use any and all methods you can!

 

[Boatist]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

If you have a 70's 25 HP on a 14 foot boat then it weighs twice what that boat is designed for. Find a 75 or later 15 Hp Johnson or Evinrude. They weigh 74 pounds. Also Build up your transom except for where the motor goes. I Have a 14 foot aluminum with a 15 HP and have taken it in the large bays with many big boat and ships. On nice days even been in the ocean. On small boats the key is not to overload, reduce weight. <br /><br />If you have a battery then add a bilge pump but put the out flow right at the top of the gunnel or water will run in the outflow into the boat.<br /><br />Any flotation in the boat may stop it from sinking but will not allow you to pump water out if swamped. It should float but most end up floating upside down.

 

[josh6780]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

well, The boat came with an 18 on it. I am in the process of fixing that. So I can put it back on there. But really the weight difference is not that much. I am starting to like my idea thuogh. I need rod holders anyway. Who could I talk to that would not right off if it would help. Seems to me like it would.

 

[deejaycee_2000]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

that 25 is perfect .... just put your fuel tank in the front you'll be fine ...

 

[josh6780]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

how am I supposed to get my tank in front of the boat?

 

[Paul Moir]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

18hp/25hp is 84lbs, one of the lightest 25hp engines ever made. Who said old is heavy?

 

[deejaycee_2000]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

Why? do you have a built in? Otherwise put the battery in the front ...

 

[josh6780]

Re: water very close to getting into boat when boat waves come. Normal?

well my fuel line does not strech that far.