Welding Discussion

LippCJ7

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So as to remove the ongoing welding debate in the trailer section, have at it fellas.
 

superbenk

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Re: Welding Discussion

Heh! I'm a glutton for punishment... Subscribed - maybe ill learn something. :rolleyes:
 

GA_Boater

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Re: Welding Discussion

Is making blobs of molten metal welding? Or is making holes in the work piece welding? If the answer to either one of those Qs is yes, then I'm a welder. :redface: That's why I pay a pro.
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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Re: Welding Discussion

I welded once.....then my garage suddenly and excitingly disappeared. I gave up welding.
 

dingbat

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Re: Welding Discussion

That's not a discussion. Its a bunch of BS being thrown around by people with no formal education on the subject
 

DECK SWABBER 58

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Re: Welding Discussion

That's not a discussion. Its a bunch of BS being thrown around by people with no formal education on the subject
WELL....:rolleyes:

I've had "formal" education on the subject. Even though I burned a garage down. :eek::facepalm:
 

hungupthespikes

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Re: Welding Discussion

From the other thread:

"as I said I used the 7014 on really thin metal for practicing, what kinda frames were you working on? what changed? why do they only use mig on frames now? just to save costs? "


7014 (Hillbilly rod)

7014 by it self is not a bad rod, it's more about the operator. It's flat weld rod, no vertical or overhead. It welds so easy the user will not get the rod down were it belongs, so penetration is bad, same problem as MIG. People look at the pool behind the arc trying to get the weld to look good. The quality of the weld is from the penetration/pool in-front and both sides of the arc, get it right the weld will look good too.

what kinda frames, why do they only use mig on frames now?
Don't know if they use MIG on frames now or not. An outside vendor builds the frames now. 150 to 650 frame for Ford Econolines but they looked like stick welds when I retired 3 years ago.

"What changed"
Federal regulations are always the rules for anything that's safety related, so good luck looking that up.
I spent 2 summers (83,84) as a summer/vacation replacement/helper in the Government Regulations Coordinator's office. Just the binders that held the paperwork from the Gov. was bigger than a set of Encyclopedias. What a pita. From the torque on the lug nut to the glue on the rear-view mirror has a government spec. that has to be tracked and paperwork filed just in case the government wants to check.
IMHO that's the number one reason manufacturing is going over seas.

I just hope a true welder gets into this. How to weld dissimilar metals, TIG, stick welding alunimum, (yes, they make a rod for that) stainless, etc.
huts
 

smokeonthewater

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Re: Welding Discussion

that's not very nice... it wasn't ALL BS
sniff

Most of us have no FORMAL education in any of the subjects we discuss on here;)
 

GA_Boater

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that's not very nice... it wasn't ALL BS
sniff

Most of us have no FORMAL education in any of the subjects we discuss on here;)

No it wasn't but It did start to get a little deep in there. As far as formal ed., experience is a good teacher and you/I learn from my mistakes.
 

MH Hawker

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Re: Welding Discussion

Well I have around 15 years of working in fab shops would that count
 

BlkY2k

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Re: Welding Discussion

First off I have to agree with Supernova as my parkinsons gets worse some of my welds look better. Welding is something Ive allways wanted to better at but my hands just wont cooperate. So I appreciate what some people are able to accomplish at it. I ran across this guys work sometime ago and I believe he has taken welding to another level. I would call it art, flawless beads and on aluminum at that. Just thought I would share. His name is John Marcella and he is a artist.
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dolluper

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Re: Welding Discussion

Alium welds diffenatly an art....always have to tack first or it warps....then you have to be quick or you burn through much more different than regular metal stock welding.....I converted my welder to do Alium but never had the speed right to many burn holes so I'll leave it to the pros they know better .....converting was easy though if you have the time to practice....change your wire feed wheel since Aluim is softer and add the gas...and 1 step up on the wire for easier handling...I wish I had the time to get better at it
 

dolluper

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Re: Welding Discussion

A little story sence I read the other thread... Before I opened my own shop
I worked for MOT here in Canada the gov's
We had Internationals that needed exhaust manifolds
so the fix was cut the frames and do the manifolds
then plate the frame with 4 8grade bolts on each end
close bolt nut ends up with weld
That was legal Ministry of Transportation.. MOT go figure
 
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