what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

panamacitymustang

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Sorry I didn't know where to post this but I figured this would be the best place since this is the restoring forum. I have the 3:rolleyes:m mask from lowes I been using the p100 filters but I'm not sure if there the correct ones can someone point me in the right direction.
 

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what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

Sorry I didn't know where to post this but I figured this would be the best place since this is the restoring forum. I have the 3m
mask from lowes I been using the p100 filters but I'm not sure if there the correct ones can someone point me in the right direction.
 

Bumperlt12

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

I just used what ever it came with ?
 

Woodonglass

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

p100's should be fine. Just make sure that if you begin to "smell" glass, it's time to replace or tighten the seal on the mask.
 

panamacitymustang

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

Thank you. I was beginning to smell the glass after very little use. I just wanted to make sure.
 

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

I would make sure you have them installed properly... They turn and snap into place....
 

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

Make sure the mask fits your face properly and you have a tight seal.
 

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

No he means this one with p100 filters

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74bayliner

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

from my experiance those masks have not been as comfortable for me to use... i picked one up for about 50 bucks from some hardware store and i buy the filter refills online as they are cheaper in bulk...
Find one that fits comfortable to use. the job is uncomfortable as is, anything you can do to put less stress on yourself is a great advantage i believe at least..
 

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

This is the best way to go... Less than $100 bucks

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

I've been using this type, probably not the best choice
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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

Nope ^^^^ Really not gunna work if you're doin a lot of grinding. Once it gets in your lungs there's no gettin it out!!!:eek:
 

Seasonally.boating.jon

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

Done some grinding and learned some things. I've been useing 60 grit flapper wheel. There is like a thick layer of resin in the bottom of the hull near the transom. So I'm going to pick up some 36 grit wheels today.

Also I have learned not to waste money on this set up.

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With that setup I had to take a break every ten minutes because they fogged up so bad I was grinding blind.
So I use this now and it is WELL WORTH THE $$$$. Very very good product.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is from my thread, same one Woodonglass suggested !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
USE THE FILTERS FROM THE FIRST PICTURE THOUGH. I could smell glass through the green ones.
 

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

Just remember with those full face respos .. the Shield is expensive to replace ..

If you get fiberglass on there and want to clean it off..your going to scratch the crap outa the lens..

Buy some lens covers for that 3m full face !.

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

From a medical point of view, there is on-going debate about whether fiberglass is carcinogenic but most authorities believe that in the doses that are encountered in regular work environments that it probably does not cause lung cancer. Fiberglass is an irritant and can cause irritation to the nose and throat when the particles are inhaled and can sometimes trigger asthma symptoms in persons who already have asthma. Although fiberglass is made of silica, the fibers are generally large enough that they are cleared from the lungs without causing the lung disease silicosis. Usually the fibers clear from the lung within a few weeks.

Personally, I use a good filter mask in that I simply don’t like all the dust. If one grinds fiberglass for a living, or works around a lot of grinding, I would recommend a high quality mask. Even around the garage with the one off projects, a mask is probably a good idea…why take the risk for something you can buy for under $100? The point however is to be educated regarding the risk of exposure.

Here is a link with more information

http://www.idph.state.il.us/envhealth/factsheets/fiberglass.htm

The short version:

How can fiberglass affect my health?

Health effects from exposure to fiberglass can be different depending on the fiber size and type of exposure. Larger fibers have been found to cause skin, eye and upper respiratory tract irritation. There are other possible health effects:
• A rash can appear when the fibers become embedded in the outer layer of the skin. No long-term health effects should occur from touching fiberglass.
• Eyes may become red and irritated after exposure to fiberglass.
• Soreness in the nose and throat can result when fibers are inhaled. Asthma and bronchitis can be aggravated by exposure to fiberglass.
• Temporary stomach irritation may occur if fibers are swallowed.

Little information is known about the health effects caused by small fibers. Smaller fibers have the ability to reach the lower part of the lungs increasing the chance of adverse health effects.

People who work with fiberglass or who have worn-out duct work lined with fiberglass in their homes or workplace may have long-term exposure to fiberglass. There is no evidence that fiberglass causes cancer in people. Animal studies have shown an increased risk of cancer when fiberglass fibers were implanted in the lung tissue of rats, but these studies are controversial because of how the fibers were implanted. Based on these animal studies, the International Agency for Research on Cancer has classified some fibers used in fiberglass as possible human carcinogens (cancer causing agents).

How can I reduce my exposure to fiberglass?

You can take steps to reduce your exposure to fibers when working with materials that contain fiberglass:
• Wear loose fitting, long-sleeved clothing and gloves. This will reduce skin contact and irritation.
• Wear a mask over the nose and mouth to prevent breathing in the fibers.
• Wear goggles or safety glasses with side shields to protect the eyes.
• Open a window or a door to increase ventilation and reduce dust levels.
• Use a shop vacuum after wetting the dust and fibers.

Measures can be taken to reduce exposure after a person has come in contact with fiberglass. Eyes should be flushed with water and any area of exposed skin should be washed with soap and warm water to remove fibers. Clothing worn while working with fiberglass should be removed and washed separately from other clothing. The washing machine should be rinsed thoroughly after the exposed clothing has been washed.
 

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

From a medical point of view, there is on-going debate about whether fiberglass is carcinogenic but most authorities believe that in the doses that are encountered in regular work environments that it probably does not cause lung cancer. Fiberglass is an irritant and can cause irritation to the nose and throat when the particles are inhaled and can sometimes trigger asthma symptoms in persons who already have asthma. Although fiberglass is made of silica, the fibers are generally large enough that they are cleared from the lungs without causing the lung disease silicosis. Usually the fibers clear from the lung within a few weeks.

Personally, I use a good filter mask in that I simply don’t like all the dust. If one grinds fiberglass for a living, or works around a lot of grinding, I would recommend a high quality mask. Even around the garage with the one off projects, a mask is probably a good idea…why take the risk for something you can buy for under $100? The point however is to be educated regarding the risk of exposure.

Here is a link with more information

http://www.idph.state.il.us/envhealth/factsheets/fiberglass.htm

The short version:

How can fiberglass affect my health?

Health effects from exposure to fiberglass can be different depending on the fiber size and type of exposure. Larger fibers have been found to cause skin, eye and upper respiratory tract irritation. There are other possible health effects:
• A rash can appear when the fibers become embedded in the outer layer of the skin. No long-term health effects should occur from touching fiberglass.
• Eyes may become red and irritated after exposure to fiberglass.
• Soreness in the nose and throat can result when fibers are inhaled. Asthma and bronchitis can be aggravated by exposure to fiberglass.
• Temporary stomach irritation may occur if fibers are swallowed.

Little information is known about the health effects caused by small fibers. Smaller fibers have the ability to reach the lower part of the lungs increasing the chance of adverse health effects.

People who work with fiberglass or who have worn-out duct work lined with fiberglass in their homes or workplace may have long-term exposure to fiberglass. There is no evidence that fiberglass causes cancer in people. Animal studies have shown an increased risk of cancer when fiberglass fibers were implanted in the lung tissue of rats, but these studies are controversial because of how the fibers were implanted. Based on these animal studies, the International Agency for Research on Cancer has classified some fibers used in fiberglass as possible human carcinogens (cancer causing agents).

How can I reduce my exposure to fiberglass?

You can take steps to reduce your exposure to fibers when working with materials that contain fiberglass:
• Wear loose fitting, long-sleeved clothing and gloves. This will reduce skin contact and irritation.
• Wear a mask over the nose and mouth to prevent breathing in the fibers.
• Wear goggles or safety glasses with side shields to protect the eyes.
• Open a window or a door to increase ventilation and reduce dust levels.
• Use a shop vacuum after wetting the dust and fibers.

Measures can be taken to reduce exposure after a person has come in contact with fiberglass. Eyes should be flushed with water and any area of exposed skin should be washed with soap and warm water to remove fibers. Clothing worn while working with fiberglass should be removed and washed separately from other clothing. The washing machine should be rinsed thoroughly after the exposed clothing has been washed.

This post should be DELETED from the thread ASAP !!

It is misleading.

YD.
 
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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

With all due respect YD, it appeared informative to me and backed by the Illinois Department of Public Health, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and a medical doctor. But like I said, "Even around the garage with the one off projects, a mask is probably a good idea…why take the risk for something you can buy for under $100?"

dunno...just sayin.
 

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Re: what filters to use while grinding fiberglass

I'm trying to understand how direct quotes from internet articles are "misleading"
This does not appear to be misleading to me. Very clear and to the point.

"Health effects from exposure to fiberglass can be different depending on the fiber size and type of exposure. Larger fibers have been found to cause skin, eye and upper respiratory tract irritation. There are other possible health effects:
• A rash can appear when the fibers become embedded in the outer layer of the skin. No long-term health effects should occur from touching fiberglass.
• Eyes may become red and irritated after exposure to fiberglass.
• Soreness in the nose and throat can result when fibers are inhaled. Asthma and bronchitis can be aggravated by exposure to fiberglass.
• Temporary stomach irritation may occur if fibers are swallowed.

Little information is known about the health effects caused by small fibers. Smaller fibers have the ability to reach the lower part of the lungs increasing the chance of adverse health effects.

People who work with fiberglass or who have worn-out duct work lined with fiberglass in their homes or workplace may have long-term exposure to fiberglass. There is no evidence that fiberglass causes cancer in people. Animal studies have shown an increased risk of cancer when fiberglass fibers were implanted in the lung tissue of rats, but these studies are controversial because of how the fibers were implanted. Based on these animal studies, the International Agency for Research on Cancer has classified some fibers used in fiberglass as possible human carcinogens (cancer causing agents). "



Anyone researching the health effects of Fiberglass dust will find this information posted by Medical Authorities and Researchers all over the internet and is considered to be the facts. If you have published facts that contradict these, Please publish them here on the forum. I agree with IDHAN, and always have recommended, that the best respirator you can afford should always be worn, but these facts as far as my research can tell, are correct. Please explain how they are misleading.
 
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