What is going on here

treedancer

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Gonzales: Bush Blocked Eavesdropping Probe




Anybody beside myself see any correlation between what started this thread and what is happening now?
 

Skinnywater

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Jeez I hate the media. Yet when a politician gets into trouble, or when at least it gets a little rough for them the media is the first to get blamed.

Alberto Gonzales isn't the media. He's a Bush appointed Attourney General in charge of the Justice Department.

The Supreme Court has sided against the Bush administration more than once regarding major Constitutional issues. And this is very likely another one.

Since this administration has a track record of pushing the Constitutional envelope, then it may be possible he's the wrong man for the job to protect it.
 

kfraser

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I'm holding Jacks, and 10's. And I bet $100,000,000,
Oh no......The New York Times just published my hand!!!.....And of all reasons,.. because it is a matter of public interest !!... Oh Crap....

Bin Laden...It's your bet now..


I'd like to post five more lines on this subject...but would probably get booted....well...if I get booted so be it...JB and the rest...please give me a little room...thanks...I promise it will be good...!!!
 

kfraser

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OK...here is the first of five post's I promised...

The media...It's a numbers game....hello..??? and a political game. Most of the media is the far liberal (which ever hand you want to say..Left or Right) What ever sells newspapers, and gains what ever politcal clout they think they can gain..(yup...they are into politics)...

Realality..

Most people believe what they read....ie... the uninformed middle class,... because they don't have time or desire to find the truth or facts,...If they've read it.....it's true...

Then you have the ....

The lower class, because they are lead by the likes of Al Sharpton, only because they CAN"T read, and would follow a cross-town-bus into a deadly intersection, and after the crash, would scream it's cause I'm BLACk...lol

And the upper class of Hollywood (actor's and producers,,) who feel guilty because they are rich for no good reason, and think the poor should be taken care of, ...by us the tax payers, instead of them.....

Stay tuned...War on terror is up next...
 

JB

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Yes, LFK.

I did say that RF is a "super dummy" in that other thread. As you recognised, it was a parody on his "W is a dummy. . . ." topic.

If that hurt Froggie's feelings, I apologise. It was meant as a tease, not an insult.
 

RubberFrog

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JB said:
Yes, LFK.

I did say that RF is a "super dummy" in that other thread. As you recognised, it was a parody on his "W is a dummy. . . ." topic.

If that hurt Froggie's feelings, I apologise. It was meant as a tease, not an insult.
At least JB didn't stick his tongue out at me! Now that would be going too far! d:)
JB, I think it was a mistake on your part to say it. You broke your own rule. We all mistakes occasionally.But it's over now, it's old news. Forget about it.

We have plenty of stuff to debate here without debating the difference between saying someone is something or just appears to be something.
Peace
 
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JB said:
No, techno, that will not do. I did not say RF is a dummy. I said what he was doing made him LOOK less smart (dumber) than he really is.

Well, same thing, TXS. I criticised what you said, what RF said, and maybe someone else, too. But I did not call anyone any names.

I asked you to SHOW ME!! Can't do it, can you? That is because it didn't happen, except in your brain.

On the other hand, what you said attacked who I am.

Ready to take that back??

My most gracious apologies oh exhalted one:


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Post Subject: Re: W is a dummie and why would anyone vote for him once much less twice Posted: 1:31pm 19 July '06
Rubber frog is a super dummy. Why would anyone even read his troll, much less reply?


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I would have used a better exhibit but apparently some senile moderator has locked the thread. You are correct you did not call rubberfrog a dummy, you called him a super dummy. You were right the fact that you insulted someone was in my mind, not in this thread. I stepped out of bounds by recalling your behaviour and did not confine myself to the topic.
JB for President!
 

Admin5

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It looks like even the best of gentlemen have lost their cool after a good political dockside conversation. Thank goodness iboats has JB around here. He is someone that I am proud to call a friend. This place would be a hollow shell of what it is if he were not around. At the same time, we all are human and can get heated under the collar. Congrats on showing that JB is also human.

Even mods need to be moderated sometimes. That's fine. Why do you think we have more than one mod here at iboats? I know that I have lost my cool with some of our best members over the years. Those were fun days weren't they SBN and Sloopy? :love: I don not agree with the way JB said some things but I also STRONGLY disagree with the statement that he hides behind his moderator status. He in fact was the only "open" mod for many years. Please respect him for that fact.

Please note: When good people get together to debate politics, even those with the best of intentions will walk away with hurt feelings from time to time. Its just the nature of being a part of this type of engagement.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Let's get back on track here now.
The thread topic is,What is going on here
Gonzales: Bush Blocked Eavesdropping Probe
 

LadyFish

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Nuff said. And, here I came in to poof this thread. I'd had enough myself. I don't like to see conflict among our members.

Just argue the facts and leave the personal attacks aside and everything will be just peachy.

Carry on.
 

CJY

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JB, you said:

"I asked you to SHOW ME!! Can't do it, can you? That is because it didn't happen, except in your brain."

JB, I think I can show otherwise, unless you are changing the rules of engagement once again.

Take a look at #1 and #2 of your statements below.

Quote #1 "You really look a lot dumber than you are when you do that."

Quote #2 "You sound like a woman in an argument for which she has no answer, so she attacks on an entirely different subject."

You then said in a later statement, Quote #3 "I surely attacked what people said, and even commented on what it sounded like, but I don't find anywhere I said, "You are. . . . ." or "you. . . .". "

You can say what you like JB, but #1 and #2 is definately not attacking what I said.

Because you did not say "you are a," or something similar does not make it any less a personal attack. This is where you are attempting to change the rules of engagement for your need as you have in the past. If this is the rule, I can play by it. Follow along JB.

For future reference JB, if I don't agree with you, or I don't like what you say, it is fair game for me to say "you sound like" or "you look like,"....and then I can fill in any adjective I would like here? This is fair game? This is precisely what you have done JB. It's crazy, it's wrong and you know it!

In #1 you are attacking the fact that I said it, not what I said. Your stated meaning is that I must be stupid if I believe what I said and I continue to do the same. You really "look stupid" if you think I will believe it was not an attack on something other than my opinion.


In #2, you are once again not attacking what I said. Again, you are attacking the fact that I said it. You then made a comparison stating I argue like a women. How in the heck is that attacking what I said and not me?

Let me say that you stating I argue like a women JB, does not offend me. I guess I am lucky. I know some brilliant females that would make you "look stupid'" if you attempted to even try to hold a debate with them.

If I were a women JB, I would take great offense to a moderator making such a chauvinistic comment to a fellow iboater. When you make such chauvinistic comments in this day and age JB, you really "sound and appear stupid." I was going to let this chauvinistic comment go, but for some reason you believe all you said was fair and non-personal. Well, you just made a personal attack on about 50% of the world's population. They may not all care, but it was still a personal attack.

Now, I believe I played by your rules of engagement JB. I did not say ""You are. . . . ." or "you. . . .". " anything. I will use your quote to defend my position on my comments. "I surely attacked what people said, and even commented on what it sounded like, but I don't find anywhere I said, "You are. . . . ." or "you. . . .".

How are the rules of engagement sounding to you now?

For the record though, you did say "you" in quote #1 and #2.

So, when you say "the names only happened in our brains," JB, that's the one and only place that matters!

Before anybody accuses me of stating a chauvinistic comment earlier in this thread, its true, as a follow up. I said something along the lines of "the women shoe must fit you," or something to that effect. It was meant only as a return in the same vein in which it was originally used. I often return the same fire used upon me even if I don't necessarily believe it. Why...for the same purpose of its original intent.

Again JB, if these are your rules, there will be a decline in civilized debate here.
 

CJY

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Sorry, my last post was prior to reading admin 5 post and those following. I am not trying to continue, but I had something to say and I said it.
 

rottenray6402

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Off topic QC, sorry for the delay but the glasses are on the way. Apparently they do nothing to help dyslexia though! GQ, QC I'm so confused. :^
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Ok, have ask 2 times to get back on topic.
RF stays on topic and then rottenray wants to go off topic again.
Sorry, this one is done, move on.
 
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