What is this???

ccarver

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what is this.. a johnson ? evinrude? maybe somthing totally differnt.. someone painted it a crappy blue... :mad:

also how much works needs to be done to get this thing running?

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Joe Reeves

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Re: What is this???

THere's a plate on that engine somewhere with the model and serial number on it. What are those numbers?
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: What is this???

try looking on the block for a round disc with 2 sets of numbers on it. if lower unit is good, and good compression, it could take about $200-250 to get it running.
 

F_R

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Re: What is this???

The model and serial number are in plain sight. All you have to do is scrape off that yucky paint and look. Revising my original answer, it is a 1955-58, 15 or 18hp The model # will tell
 

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ccarver

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Re: What is this???

id love to tell you guys the model number, but the guy is trying to sell it and lives miles away, i emailed him to give me the model number... so we'll see i guess
 

CATransplant

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Re: What is this???

Hmm...if you can get it really cheap or if he can show you that it runs, it might work for you.

A couple of things:

That outboard is set up for remote steering. I think you said your boat was a tiller boat. If so, you'll have to dig up a tiller handle for it. Most of the outboard boneyards, like www.tcoutboard.com, will have one.

Also, you absolutely must do a compression check on that outboard before buying it. If it has unbalanced compression between the cylinders, or compression under about 80, skip it. It will likely cost you too much to get it running properly.

Also, you'll need a two-line tank, hose, and fittings for that engine. Add at least $100 for a good one, if one doesn't come with it.

If he can't run it for you, but it has good compression, figure on new coils, points, and condensers, a carb rebuild, and new impeller, at a bare minimum, before you can use it. About $200 total. Check for water intrusion into the lower unit. If the oil in there is milky, you'll have to reseal the lower unit, at a minimum. More work, but not that expensive. However, if it's been sitting for years, you may have other lower unit problems to deal with.

You're dealing here with a machine over 50 years old. If it were in regular use, and maintained, no problem. If it's been sitting in a shed or, worse, out in the weather, you'll have to do all the stuff I mentioned to it, and maybe more.

Finally, that doesn't look like it has electric start, so you'll be rope starting it. No big deal, really, but if it's an 18, it's a good pull to fire it up.

Bottom line is that you could spend about $400 or more to get it back in good shape, with the parts, the tank, the tiller, and some paint and decals. A nice-looking, good-running 18hp of that vintage should sell for just about that, generally.

Keep all that in mind when you look at that outboard. Or, keep looking.
 

jbjennings

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Re: What is this???

I think it might be a 15 because it doesn't seem to have the full belly pan. But it's either a 15 or 18 for sure. Not a 25hp. Without a compression test I wouldn't even consider it, either. If it had good compression, I'd go 100 tops for it. No tiller handle or gear/rod going back to the main throttle gear.
My 18's and 15's crank really easy and I don't mind pulling them at all, but it could be because I'm incredibly strong.:D;)
I sure is ugly, but could be a decent motor. It's also missing a transom screw washer which is annoying to fix. If it's cheap, consider it, if not, move on. There's lot's of good ones out there. You'll like it much more if you find one that has really good compression and a good lower unit. I paid 300 plus 100 shopping once upon a time for a "low hours" '58 fastwin 18. It WAS a low hours motor, and runs like a top, probably my favorite motor. A good low hours motor is well worth the extra 200 to me. They're a little harder to find, but a borderline worn out one will feel like it's worn out and be harder to crank and never idle as smooth as you'd like.
Just a few observations from an old OMC addict.
Overall, I'd give it a thumbs down for more than 75 bucks.
JBJ
 
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F_R

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Re: What is this???

It is not a 25 because it only has 4 (small) bolts holding the gearcase on. The 25 has 6. It clearly shows the belly pan in one of the pictures, which makes it '55-58.

I wouldn't give over $40, and maybe not even that, but I'm cheap.
 

jay_merrill

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Re: What is this???

I originally thought it is a Bigtwin but I now see only two bottom bolts per side on the gearbox to midsection mounting point. The motor also doesn't have a lower cowling section like the Big Twin. I'm going to go with the 15hp or 18hp - probably a '55, '56 or '57. The key there is the mixture knob shape - the knobs for '58 had a concave front section.
 
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F_R

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Yep, wrong knobs for a '58.
 

mchin

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Re: What is this???

The shape of the steering bracket leads me to think it's a 1957 18 hp fastwin.

i too wouldn't pay more than 40 bucks, if and only if the compression is good. It looks like the throttle gear and speed control shaft might also be missing, but it's hard to tell from the picture. and is that red under the ugly blue paint on the leg? I honestly wouldn't be shocked if had johnson parts mixed in.
 
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