what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

[twentybelow]

I am pricing a the 'log' style replacement for my exhaust to improve cooling and am interested in maybe installing some kind of performance exhaust in lieu of future upgrades to my 888 302. This is an old engine and i do not mind spending on an exhaust if it can handle a higher powered 302 later on. I assume the 'log' style is always put on from the factory.

 

[Bondo]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Ayuh,... It's a Ford,.. You have Few to No choices...

 

[twentybelow]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Ayuh,... It's a Ford,.. You have Few to No choices...

Thanks....i was in need of a ****house lawyer.

 

[Bondo]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

WTF,..??

You asked the Question,+ I gave you The Answer,...
Alibet, not the 1 you Wanted, but the RIGHT 1 none the less....

It's a Ford motor,... Nobody is using Ford motors anymore, hence, Parts are Hard to find or Non-existent....

No f*kin problem though,... It'll be a cold day in 'ell before I respond top another 1 of your questions....
With the Right answer anyways.......

 

[haulnazz15]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Bond-O, you're not being entirely truthful. There is no shortage of Ford parts out there, they used the motors in the mid-70's and in the late-80's-mid-90's for inboard ski boat applications. There are plenty of parts available for them. There is nothing specific to a Ford engine itself that can't be found from any auto parts store. The manifolds and exhaust are the only Ford-specific parts, unless he needs a transom bracket replaced.

That being said, there ane NOT a lot of OPTIONS when it comes to the aftermarket for them. You can replace it with another log-style manifold, or you can look into a "center-riser" conversion which supposedly yields slightly more power due to the less-restrictive design. However, in doing so, you won't likely see a whole lot of "performance gain" because the 4-5HP you could possible gain won't mean anything on the water because it takes a lot of HP to get even small gains on the water.

I plan on doing the center-riser conversion on my 351W, but I am doing it because the manifolds and risers are cheaper to replace down the line. The conversion itself costs as much as getting new log style since you have to purchase new risers and exhaust tubing. Your last option would be to have a set of thru-hull marine headers made, but that won't be cheap and I haven't seen any made personally. The last option would mean cutting holes into the transom of your boat and being much noisier.

Bond-O is full of great information, but insulting him isn't going to help you out much.

 

[Bondo]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

The manifolds and exhaust are the only Ford-specific parts,

haulnazz15,... That's exactly what the topic of this thread is...
So,... Tell me,...
How many Retailers of Ford manifolds have you found??
How many styles did they carry??
Now,.... Compare your results with the same search for SBC manifolds....

You have Few to No choices...

I still think that's Quite Accurate....

 

[180shabah]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Any change in manifold style will require some custom work, cause he has a merc, and they only used log manifolds on the fords. So either adapt them to meet up with the factory y-pipe, or cut holes in the transom.

Either way it is alot of work for very little if any gain. While the 302 is a better candidate than a 305 for making power your still not going to get big numbers. You can't use a "hot" cam, because you'll suck water out of the exhaust, and you can't spin them past five grand without killing the drive. Extra cubes are you best solution for more power.

Bondo - that is a long rebuttle, how long did that take with one finger???

 

[twentybelow]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

WTF,..??

You asked the Question,+ I gave you The Answer,...
Alibet, not the 1 you Wanted, but the RIGHT 1 none the less....

It's a Ford motor,... Nobody is using Ford motors anymore, hence, Parts are Hard to find or Non-existent....

No f*kin problem though,... It'll be a cold day in 'ell before I respond top another 1 of your questions....
With the Right answer anyways.......

Seems like someone doesn't like fords...ya, i heard about the center riser idea....but that was a specific answer from the other guy....the one who gave me specific information instead of taking a jab at Fords.

Seems like somone must have bought stock in GM instead of Ford.....how is GM's ticker doing by the way??

 

[180shabah]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Seems like someone doesn't like fords

Actually it looks more like a case of a newb having thin skin. After you've been here for more than a few day you will learn that Bondo is neither pro-chevy, nor is he anti-ford. 'ell, just take a look at his own "collection" over the years. What he does do, is tell it exactly the way he sees it. Usually with as few words as possible. If that ruffles your feathers, man up and don't take it personal.
You chose a boat with a 30 year old power package with a ford engine. Not that the fords were bad, but they only accounted for a small portion of the market then, and three decades later are nonexistant. Your parts choices are limited and will tend to be higher priced.

Just look on the bright side, at least your ford ain't spinnin' and OMC drive. Then we'd all have to confess how much stock we own in Mercruiser.

 

[skargo]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Seems like someone doesn't like fords...ya, i heard about the center riser idea....but that was a specific answer from the other guy....the one who gave me specific information instead of taking a jab at Fords.

Seems like somone must have bought stock in GM instead of Ford.....how is GM's ticker doing by the way??

Wow, butthurt much?

 

[alumi numb]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

hee hee hee, i like this one.

 

[bruceb58]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Seems like someone doesn't like fords...Seems like somone must have bought stock in GM instead of Ford.....how is GM's ticker doing by the way??

You will find out sooner than later...Neither GM nor Ford makes marine exhaust manifolds. The point is that Ford no longer supports marine applications. Since that is the case, after market manufacturers have also limited production for Ford applications.

 

[haulnazz15]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

haulnazz15,... That's exactly what the topic of this thread is...
So,... Tell me,...
How many Retailers of Ford manifolds have you found??
How many styles did they carry??
Now,.... Compare your results with the same search for SBC manifolds....

I still think that's Quite Accurate....

I know of at least 3 online retailers that carry the log style, and about 7-8, (not including ebay) that carry the center-riser syle. Like I said, it wasn't entirely truthful for you to say he has NO choices. There are few, and the only real "option" is to convert to a center riser-style. He didn't ask what the comparison was of SBC to Fords in parts availability, so it's a useless point to make.

In any case, they used center risers on all of the inboard applications from the late 80 until the mid-90's, so all of the MasterCrafts, Ski Nautics, etc have to have parts to continue working. I believe I have an email from an eBay seller who sells the conversion kit for the SBF. Sierra Marine makes one, as well as Barr. It's not cheap to do, but it saves money in the end if you ever have to get new risers or manifolds.

 

[haulnazz15]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

BTW, here is an excerpt from the Ebay seller.

"A center rise conversion is different on every application. I know that the older end-rise style MerCruiser manifolds usually had the alternator mounted to the bottom of the one of the manifolds. If that is so, it will complicate things. Sierra Marine makes a complete conversion kit for for the older '77-'82 MerCruisers, which you can see here: "

Part number 18-1987 at http://ww2.sierramarine.com/sierra/catalogjava/category.asp

 

[twentybelow]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

Actually it looks more like a case of a newb having thin skin. After you've been here for more than a few day you will learn that Bondo is neither pro-chevy, nor is he anti-ford. 'ell, just take a look at his own "collection" over the years. What he does do, is tell it exactly the way he sees it. Usually with as few words as possible. If that ruffles your feathers, man up and don't take it personal.
You chose a boat with a 30 year old power package with a ford engine. Not that the fords were bad, but they only accounted for a small portion of the market then, and three decades later are nonexistant. Your parts choices are limited and will tend to be higher priced.

Just look on the bright side, at least your ford ain't spinnin' and OMC drive. Then we'd all have to confess how much stock we own in Mercruiser.

"with as few words as possible"? That would be something you do as a straight shooter, not just rambling on to hear yourself talk and patting yourself on the back. What i am looking for is INFO. that is spelt INFO. I have been around the world and back "man". Everywhere you go there is someone belching out jargon about why something is the way it is...instead of solving the situation.

I invite you to give a knowledgeable answer, complete with actual directions, or a referall to said directions. This would constitute advice, rather than jargon. It should not be hard to provide such simple sound advice...especially to a "newb".

 

[skargo]

Re: what type of exhaust besides "log" style is there?

"with as few words as possible"? That would be something you do as a straight shooter, not just rambling on to hear yourself talk and patting yourself on the back. What i am looking for is INFO. that is spelt INFO. I have been around the world and back "man". Everywhere you go there is someone belching out jargon about why something is the way it is...instead of solving the situation.

I invite you to give a knowledgeable answer, complete with actual directions, or a referall to said directions. This would constitute advice, rather than jargon. It should not be hard to provide such simple sound advice...especially to a "newb".

Seriously, what is wrong with you? People are dispensing PROPER advice, yet you still act like someone is out to get you. Best of luck to you.