what would one suggest for this

anthony115merc

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what can i do about this in the pic it is all wood and needs to be strong enough to take a 115hp motor

any suggestions except for dynamite and lighting it on fire;)
 

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Re: what would one suggest for this

First thought is to replace the boat with a boat rated for 115hp, Anthony.

Second thought is that the first thought was probably a good one.

If all the wood is solid you might consider replacing the 115 with something more like 50.

Can you give us more detail about the dimensions and condition of the boat?
 

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Re: what would one suggest for this

it is 4.8m long by 2m wide its in not very good condition i will do a lot of work to it if i have to

i dont want to get another boat because of centimental value my step dad and 5 of his friends all bought into it 14 years ago and they have had it sitting in one of thier carports for the last 3 years so it has been kept dry

i did a test thing which is meant to give you your max hp and i ended up with 135hp as my max i have already got a 115hp inline 6 merc which i want to use on it i cant really afford to spend thousands on a new motor because i would like to spend some more money on the actual boat and also i havent got a car yet so i got to put some money towards that over the next 2 months
 

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Re: what would one suggest for this

when i say this in the pic i mean the transom
 

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Re: what would one suggest for this

Okay. Sounds more like a doable project, Anthony.

Step one is testing the transom for rot. If there is wet or spongy wood there you will need to rebuild it. If not, just sand and repaint it.

You probably need to test the floor and stringers for rot as well, but if she has been stored under cover they are probably good.

Good luck. :)
 

anthony115merc

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Re: what would one suggest for this

i was thinking maybe rebuilding the transom and covering it in fibre glass would this be a good option?
 

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More work, but it would be more weatherproof if done well.
 

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i have been looking at how other people have done some of thier stuff and decided i will rip out everything and make new stringers glass everything in then glass the whole outside making it a glass boat if this can be done i am prepared to take it on i know it will cost lots and take a lot of time but if it isnt imposible i will do it
 

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Anthony, if this is a wooden boat, be very careful of sheathing it in fiberglass. Sounds like a good idea, but the wood moves, it swells and shrinks, this will break it loose from the fiberglass skin you are adding.

Its best to keep wooden boats wooden.
 

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You also may want to consider beefing up the transom gussets to help carry the extra load. Nothing worse than watching you motor sink to the bottom of the lake exept watching it sink with the transom still attached to it.
 

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Re: what would one suggest for this

Anthony, I have been following your posts in both the Mercury repair area and this forum. I commend you for rebuilding the Merc 1150, they are a wonderful challenge. However,I think you are seriously mis judging the transom of your boat and in fact its hp capability. your current transom cracked with a small engine on it. The Merc 1150 has a lot of weight above the bracket (tall engine) as well as much higher hp and torque below the waterline. I agree with Kevin70. that transom will have to have substantial corner gussets AND gussets to the center line of the boat.
 

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Re: what would one suggest for this

1 what are gussets?

2 can i make a fully new transom out of wood much bigger and stronger
 

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1 what are gussets?

2 can i make a fully new transom out of wood much bigger and stronger

Anthony, a gusset is a term used in building. It is a bracket or fixture that reinforces a corner to keep it at its fixed angle. In building the angle is usually 90 degrees but in engineering it can be any angle. The gusset transfers the energy that is trying to rip your angle apart into force split equally along the two vectors that form the angle.....the Sydney Opera house has lots of gussets or it would fall down

Yes you can make a new transom, remember though, bigger is not stronger. The transom must be attached to the backbone of the boat (the keel) in such a way that the forces trying to rip it off (read Merc 1150) are transfered through the length of the keel. I will post some pics of examples of gussets used for this application.
 

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i would apreciate the pictures alot thanks

Heres some pics of two different gussets used on the same boat to reinforce the transom.
 

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thanks for showing me what they are i will be able to upload some more pics on saturday nite wen i pick her up and maybe if i post some pictures of the transom people can edit them in paint and post them bak to me to get the best design for this
 

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Anthony, Here is some very useful books you can buy on rebuilding old boats. I found these very handy when i first bought my old savage escort. The floor was rotted out but the transom and stingers were ok. They give you detailed step by step guide to rebuilding stingers,floor,transom. They were selling these at newsagents a couple years back.. VOLUME ONE IS THE GO!
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will look into those i will be posting some better deatil photos of my boat tommorow so its is easier to help im picking it up from my stepdads freinds house
 
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