When do you say enough is enough

[avenger79]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

I did check out this site, and i think i found the fpr for my boat was just under 100. So i'm guessing a merc part is in the 175 range. I'm not sure where the fuel cooler is either, but if i can find out that would be great, i really don't want to get screwed.

avenger, it's a sucky position. I have 4 hours on the boat, motor has been taken out twice, and now to be taken out for the third time to get at the fuel pressure regulator, it's a bit obserd. If the dealer is legit i'm ok with the charges, we all need to get paid for the work that we do. I'm a bit mechanically inclined, but in my boat, i have to take the whole thing apart just to see the stupid motor. I just have no where to do the work, so i'm with you with taking it in.

i totally understand where you are at. i have absolutely no problem paying someone a fair price for a good job. I'm sure they're out there i just haven't found them yet.

 

[msojjo]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

avenger, where are you located?

 

[avenger79]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

in jefferson county

you?

 

[msojjo]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

South side of Fond du lac county. Reason i'm asking is i have land in adams county, and Evensons Marine is out on Petenwell lake. The owners run the place, and i have talked to him quite a bit about all of my problems and he gives great advice, and has helped me out a couple of times. I'll be taking my boat to have him service and winterize when this whole ordeal is done. He charges 180 for winterzation, including changing oil, pulling outdrive, greasing bearings and shafts, and lower unit fluid. Dealers in washington county wanted over 300 for winterization, and i don't think that was all included. May be worth the drive if there is no one in your area.

 

[avenger79]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

very cool. right now i have an OB so winterization is pretty easy. going to look at an IO though. i have heard good things about Tinus marine in oconomowoc and skipper buds has helped me out some.

 

[wbc1957]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Damn! After reading all of this thread the best name for your boat is "Shop Talk". It seems to have been rebirthed at a shop, and the in and out patient care seems to continue enough to earn the name. Good luck.

 

[msojjo]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Damn! After reading all of this thread the best name for your boat is "Shop Talk". It seems to have been rebirthed at a shop, and the in and out patient care seems to continue enough to earn the name. Good luck.

i like that, i don't know if the wife will approve of the name, i'm guessing she'll feel left out of "shop talk".

 

[the rebel]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I know a lot of boat shops that couldn't fix a sandwich, but somehow seem to stay "afloat". It really sounds like your boat shop has done more damage to your boat than it has repaired any problems.
The symptoms you described since the very first time back out in the boat all point to fuel related problems. No power, hard to get on plane, won't start.
Since you know they ruined your power steering unit, what makes you think he didn't crush any fuel lines or components during the r & r of the engine?
Your boat ran fine before they did any wrenching on it, now you mysteriously have numerous problems popping up. Not a coincidence. I've heard horror stories in my area too, and I know which shops to steer clear of. I do all my work personally, and I know what is going on in my boat from stem to stern.

I may be completely wrong, but your dealer is trying to re-coupe the money they had to shell out for the power steering unit that they destroyed, is what it sounds like to me. Others have given you very sound advice when they tell you to price shop that type of repair on the FPR for your boat.
I would think hard about getting another mechanic look at anything that they supposedly replace on your boat from here on out until they get it purring again. I don't believe your boat was a lemon when you started the repair, but you just got roped in by a mechanic that has his mind preoccupied with something else other than his daily job. Possibly on his own boat or racing program.

I wouldn't let them off the hook on this botched repair job. Just MHO.

Hope you get it all worked out.

 

[tboltmike]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Outta my league here, but what about filters or tank screens choking fuel to the pmp or regulator, crimped fuel line, etc.?

 

[tommays]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

You could always drop a 1-1/2 years of your life into a 40 year old boat a whole lot more money

 

[Fireman431]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Why don't you watch him work on it? Tell him you need to learn to get the experience. Have him show you where the FP regulator is. Basically, make him prove it.

 

[avenger79]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

hey mmsjjo well there is some good of this thread. got me motivated to tinker with the motor on my boat.

wound up being a great day got to spend a few hours on the water. not perfect yet, but usable anyway.

i'll throw a pic of her on Mon.

oh and i like the name suggestion.

 

[msojjo]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I know a lot of boat shops that couldn't fix a sandwich, but somehow seem to stay "afloat". It really sounds like your boat shop has done more damage to your boat than it has repaired any problems.
The symptoms you described since the very first time back out in the boat all point to fuel related problems. No power, hard to get on plane, won't start.
Since you know they ruined your power steering unit, what makes you think he didn't crush any fuel lines or components during the r & r of the engine?
Your boat ran fine before they did any wrenching on it, now you mysteriously have numerous problems popping up. Not a coincidence. I've heard horror stories in my area too, and I know which shops to steer clear of. I do all my work personally, and I know what is going on in my boat from stem to stern.

I may be completely wrong, but your dealer is trying to re-coupe the money they had to shell out for the power steering unit that they destroyed, is what it sounds like to me. Others have given you very sound advice when they tell you to price shop that type of repair on the FPR for your boat.
I would think hard about getting another mechanic look at anything that they supposedly replace on your boat from here on out until they get it purring again. I don't believe your boat was a lemon when you started the repair, but you just got roped in by a mechanic that has his mind preoccupied with something else other than his daily job. Possibly on his own boat or racing program.

I wouldn't let them off the hook on this botched repair job. Just MHO.

Hope you get it all worked out.

This is the reason that i took it back to the dealer who repaired it the first time, i think they are respsonsible for it not running the way it should. I thought and told the owner of the shop yesterday and told him the boat ran excellent before i brought it in to have the power steering fixed. And that they should check pinched lines, crossed or not connected wiring. He said they would run more tests today, as i talked to him last night. I know he knows that i am more than discusted with his machanic who was working on my boat. But he said they would do some more testing. He did come out and ask me how much time i put on the boat so far after the repower this spring, and told him about 4 hours total. So i guess we'll see what they come up with. He told me that he would work something out and he was going to order the part. I do know after this i'm taking it to another dealer and having it gone through and make sure everything is rite.

 

[msojjo]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Why don't you watch him work on it? Tell him you need to learn to get the experience. Have him show you where the FP regulator is. Basically, make him prove it.[/QUOTE


I would love to, but with work and three kids and a house to run, i just don't have the time, it would cost me more to drive an hour watch him fix it, and drive an hour home. Don posted on my thread that it was in fact on the bottom side of the motor where he said it was. That makes me feel a **** load better.

 

[msojjo]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

hey mmsjjo well there is some good of this thread. got me motivated to tinker with the motor on my boat.

wound up being a great day got to spend a few hours on the water. not perfect yet, but usable anyway.

i'll throw a pic of her on Mon.

oh and i like the name suggestion.

I actually purchased this boat thinking that i would do all of the work myself, being a boat motor, there isn't usually a whole lot of electronics, no smog controls, you know motors from the old days that i've putzed with in the past. I got greedy and had to have the bigger motor, with more hp. Then you know i wanted EFI and MPI, so it's my own falt.

 

[the rebel]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

This is the reason that i took it back to the dealer who repaired it the first time, i think they are respsonsible for it not running the way it should. I thought and told the owner of the shop yesterday and told him the boat ran excellent before i brought it in to have the power steering fixed. And that they should check pinched lines, crossed or not connected wiring. He said they would run more tests today, as i talked to him last night. I know he knows that i am more than discusted with his machanic who was working on my boat. But he said they would do some more testing. He did come out and ask me how much time i put on the boat so far after the repower this spring, and told him about 4 hours total. So i guess we'll see what they come up with. He told me that he would work something out and he was going to order the part. I do know after this i'm taking it to another dealer and having it gone through and make sure everything is rite.

10-4. I hate when this mess happens, and hope you get it ironed out without any more expense. I'm right beside you when you say they are responsible for the fuel related problems. If I couldn't convince him in to making it right at his expense, I'd have to get a lawyer friend to put enough heat on him till he does. Incompetence is no excuse for ruining your personal property and expecting you to pay them to repair their muck ups.

Hang tough.

 

[This_lil_fishy]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Some of the labour costs may be for the water testing of the boat as well. Bad deal all around though...makes me glad I bought new this time around..2 seasons and no headaches...pay the mechanic or pay the bank..

Ian

 

[msojjo]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Ok,so the saga continues. So the dealership has put in the new fuel regulator, and didn't have to pull the motor to do it. He pulled off the manifold instead, and got down that way. So that was a good 600 dollars, while he was in there he said there was some water in the manifold, and he would have it tested last week friday, tested and failed a pressure test. So now i need 2 new manifolds at 350 a piece, plus labor. So, shouldn't have this been done when the new block was put in? Is this going to damage my new motor? The mechanic told me that the plugs weren't wet, but the manifolds were leaking, could this be part of all my underlying problems? This is going to be a almost 2000 dollar bill all said and done. What else is there to go wrong?

 

[sea wolf]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

Of course there's water in the friggin' manifold. There's supposed to be. But, where? Who did the pressure test?

 

[contractorguy]

Re: When do you say enough is enough

wow....:redface:

I'd tell the dealer that they just failed the pressure test also... Get it to another place for a 2nd opinion.