Where's Don S?

trog100

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well.. i didnt drive off don s.. he chose to go..<br /><br />which is pretty much what i am about to do.. he he<br /><br />summer time is here.. there really is better things to do than get picked up on very word i say from now on.. which is pretty much what is happening from certain folks..<br /><br />when u aint allowed to offer up a "guess" cos it will get taken out of context and used against u.. well.. it aint no place to be..<br /><br />happy boating dudes.. whoosh<br /><br />trog100
 

SeattleMatt

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I'm relativly new here, but I have to ask<br /><br />for some reason I don't understand it, what is Bondo's response <br /><br />"If I've got to answer the rest of your Question,...........<br />You're Not Qualified to have Your fingers Anywhere Near the Engine..........<br /><br />What provoked this response? I don't see any mention of oil in the post. Did something get deleted from the post?
 

tommays

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it means if you have all the facts and a service manual in your hand but dont understand what turning screw A and B will do<br /><br />you should not be turning screw A and B until you do<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

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thanks achris,<br /><br />That post gets hot,but I think the posters were fired up by some other posts.<br /><br />I still am surprised Don got got to.<br /><br />I tried a couple of times,just to stimulate him and get more info<br /><br />DHP
 

SeattleMatt

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IMO, turning those two screws is quite a task, (on mine there are 3). I already spent 2 hours working on what he is talking about here. :) <br /><br />I guess I just dont' understand why that question is so trivial, is it just too broad?
 

DHPMARINE

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tommays,<br /><br /> I think at some point in time you have to turn the screw for the first time.And see what it does.<br />On anything.<br /><br />DHP
 

achris

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DHP,<br /><br />I agree with what you say about turning for the first time. I think what is being got at here is that the screws were mixture and speed. The person about to turn them didn't understand what they actually did. I think I would agree that if he had no understanding of what he was about to change, he shouldn't be changing it. I believe he also asked for step-by-step instructions on changing oil.<br /><br />Chris........
 

ewenm

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um ive just got through reading all the above wo!<br />i think don is right in checking out. and as for TROG100 um check out your original advise--since when did screwing in a throtle stop screw decrease idle speed, shouldnt it be screwed out you know ANTI clockwise. its probably miss information like this that gets up peoples noses who are genuinley trying to help others
 

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Originally posted by ewen:<br />TROG100 um check out your original advise--since when did screwing in a throtle stop screw decrease idle speed, shouldnt it be screwed out you know ANTI clockwise. its probably miss information like this that gets up peoples noses who are genuinley trying to help others
Here we go again (I was going to point that out a long time ago, but like others, I also, do not feel like "trogging" any more.) And awaaaay we go........take it, Trog :D
 

cobra 3.0

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Not to worry we'll all be on the water soon and the air will clear from all this BS! Happy boating!
 

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BigPoppaG

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tommays,<br />Know of any classes in the Hampton Roads area? <br /><br />I hate not knowing and would jump at the chance to take classes like the ones you listed. Can't seem to find any here.
 

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you have to search under adult ED classes<br /><br />you might have to take and auto electric and auto tune-up class in your area BUT then your going to understand the basics and use your MARINE service manual to saftely fix your boat<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

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well i had gone but nobody seemed to notice.. <br /><br />this really is utter nosense but does serve as a good example of why i must be going..<br /><br />um ive just got through reading all the above wo!<br />i think don is right in checking out. and as for TROG100 um check out your original advise--since when did screwing in a throtle stop screw decrease idle speed, shouldnt it be screwed out you know ANTI clockwise. its probably miss information like this that gets up peoples noses who are genuinley trying to help others<br /><br />not only does someone post this nonsense.. it imediately gest backed up by someone else.. gee wiz bang we got trog again.. yee-ahh..<br /><br />screwing in a screw.. well as a genral rule.. u screw it in when the head gets closer to the threaded bit its being screwed into.. could be clockwise could be anti-clockwise depending from which side to look at it.. there are also such things as left-hand threads.. which go the opposite way..<br /><br />a throttle stop screw.. screws into a little plate or boss.. it stops the throttle butterfy from fully closing.. it has a little spring on it to stop it moving by itself..<br /><br />as u "screw it in" the head gets closer to the plate/boss and the other end of the screw pokes out further.. the further u "screw it in" the more open the throttle is kept.. course screwing one side in does kinda cause the other side to get screwed out.. he he he<br /><br />i know what i mean by screwing a screw in. making the head get closer to the threaded bit.. others might see it different.. he he.. quite clearly some do..<br /><br />either way. there really are too many nit picking "lets get trog" anals on this board for my participation to be in the least bit pleasurable..<br /><br />one anal i can stand but whole bunches of em ganging up on me gets a little too much.. he he<br /><br />i will keep reading this thread out of interest.. i might even answer the most absurd "trog knocks" but basically treat me as no longer posting or making contributions to this board..<br /><br />trog100<br /><br />ps.. and some times i do make the odd typo.. he he.. and if the only thing that gets noticed out of the thread in question and thought worthy of comment is my typo.. that tells its own story..
 

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Looks like they win. <br /><br />Sad that it can come to this. Makes you lose respect for the whole thing.<br /><br />Guess ya gotta have a back bone, sense of humor and can take it as well as give it to be a member.<br /><br />Use to be that everyone was friendly and ready and willing to help..........now it's to see who can put the other poster down further and faster then the next poster and prove them wrong.<br /><br />Any mods respond to this whole thing?<br /><br />Seems it was a free for all and continued until we lost two posters. Later Don S and trog100, hope it was all worth it.<br /><br />Gonna monitor to see if any more leave. And Forbes rates this the best site. Guess they haven't read this thread. :(
 

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Trog, this is your posting, nobody changed anything. You gave bad advise. To a person that knows NOT what they are doing, THEY do not know YOU did a "typo". Glad you are not a surgeon, as I would not let you take my blood pressure. This is your post, and then you even go on to debate YOURSELF! Read on..... <br /> Ps. When was the last time anyone saw a lefthand throttle stop screw, and besides, this side on the pond its called a Idle Screw, but I digress...... <br /> Trog's post <br />trog100 <br />Chief Petty Officer <br />Member # 51877 <br /><br /> posted April 24, 2005 06:25 PM <br />-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />the throttle stop screw.. that does pretty much what it says.. it stops the throttle butterfly from closing too much and is what keeps the engine going as opposed to it just stopping when the throttle is closed..<br /> if your engine is idling at 900 rpm.. u screw the throttle stop screw in a bit (1/4 turn) and the throttle butterfly closes a bit more and the engine idles slower <br />screw it in too far and will come to a stop.. if u have a good look at were the throttle linkage joins the carb it should be apparent which is the throttle stop screw..<br /><br /> Then ewen post this........ <br />ewen <br />Cadet <br />Member # 55154 <br /><br /> posted May 04, 2005 10:00 PM <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />um ive just got through reading all the above wo!<br />i think don is right in checking out. and as for TROG100 um check out your original advise--since when did screwing in a throtle stop screw decrease idle speed, shouldnt it be screwed out you know ANTI clockwise. its probably miss information like this that gets up peoples noses who are genuinley trying to help others <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> Then trog again <br /> trog100 <br />Chief Petty Officer <br />Member # 51877 <br /><br /> posted May 05, 2005 06:39 AM <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />well i had gone but nobody seemed to notice.. <br /><br />this really is utter nosense but does serve as a good example of why i must be going..<br /><br /> (This is a repeat of above post) <br />"um ive just got through reading all the above wo!<br />i think don is right in checking out. and as for TROG100 um check out your original advise--since when did screwing in a throtle stop screw decrease idle speed, shouldnt it be screwed out you know ANTI clockwise. its probably miss information like this that gets up peoples noses who are genuinley trying to help others<br /> Now back to Trogs post <br /><br /> not only does someone post this nonsense.. it imediately gest backed up by someone else.. gee wiz bang we got trog again.. yee-ahh.. <br />screwing in a screw.. well as a genral rule.. u screw it in when the head gets closer to the threaded bit its being screwed into.. could be clockwise could be anti-clockwise depending from which side to look at it.. there are also such things as left-hand threads.. which go the opposite way..<br /><br />a throttle stop screw.. screws into a little plate or boss.. it stops the throttle butterfy from fully closing.. it has a little spring on it to stop it moving by itself..<br /><br />as u "screw it in" the head gets closer to the plate/boss and the other end of the screw pokes out further.. the further u "screw it in" the more open the throttle is kept.. course screwing one side in does kinda cause the other side to get screwed out.. he he he<br /><br />i know what i mean by screwing a screw in. making the head get closer to the threaded bit.. others might see it different.. he he.. quite clearly some do..<br /><br />either way. there really are too many nit picking "lets get trog" anals on this board for my participation to be in the least bit pleasurable..<br /><br />one anal i can stand but whole bunches of em ganging up on me gets a little too much.. he he<br /><br />i will keep reading this thread out of interest.. i might even answer the most absurd "trog knocks" but basically treat me as no longer posting or making contributions to this board..<br /><br />trog100<br /><br />ps.. and some times i do make the odd typo.. he he.. and if the only thing that gets noticed out of the thread in question and thought worthy of comment is my typo.. that tells its own story.. <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> So when you give directions at the fork in road, guess left or right really doesn't matter to you either I guess...
 

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Originally posted by Big Poppa G:<br /> Any mods respond to this whole thing?. Guess they haven't read this thread. :(
Probably quite wrong. They handed out shovels a long time ago. Some here decided on not to participate, some know how far and where to dig, and of course, some just do not know when to put down the shovel, as the hole is now too deep, and can't get out............... :rolleyes:
 

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I had been ignoring this thread (just reading not posting) in hope that trog would just go away. Appearantly he did, but when nobody noticed (but breathed a sigh of relief) and didn't post "Where's trog", he came back to remind us that nobody missed him! Hmmm, I wonder why that is?<br /><br />Last time I looked it was quite difficult to get a screwdriver into the 'other' end of a throttle stop screw. So, that should have made it quite simple, but somebody mentioned screwing it the other way from the other end. Sorry, which way is "UP" again?
 

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I also read "screwing in" as the bottom of the screw going into the casting to let the idle arm go in. Maybe cooler heads would prevail if people who disagreed would ask questions first instead of bashing because they see it differently.
 
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