Whining about gas

[JCF350]

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Yet again, ol' waterinthefuels gonna come into a thread and throw a fat monkey wrench into it.

That means we have a reason to complain, because now we can't help the economy keep rolling as we have no money left over to help it, we spend it all on just what we need to function in our daily lives. That is a legitimate complaint, IMO.

Complaining about ones own lack of planning??
The wage and price issue has been there since there have been wages and prices.

Too be extremely Blunt about it. The opening post could have been "Shut up and quit your b****ing, I'm going fishin!!"

Now where "is" that weather report for the Gulf Stream?

 

[ezmobee]

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Excellent post Waterinthefuel. More clearly made the point I was trying to make. How many of us work for companies that produce a product or service that would fall under this "not necessary for survival" umbrella. And what would happen if everyone stopped buying this product or service.

Disclaimer: I work for a health insurance company so HAHAHAHAHA. I'm a whole other kind of evil.

 

[fishdog4449]

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The way I see it there is no use complaining. China and other resource hogs will likely keep prices high until we increase our imports (not likely) or put someone in power in Venuzuala or Saudi who will export us cheap oil (not likely either). So for right now, its not gonna change so I'm not gonna complain. If it gets worse, I will downsize boats. Maybe go to sailing..idk.

 

[gonefishie]

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For those that completely supporting the supply and demand law and saying that China and India is pushing the prices up.......How come they are paying $1.48/gal in Shanghai right now????????wouldn't big oil be making more money if they would sells all their supply here? why would they be selling it for $1.48 over there when they could dump it all here? even at $2.00/gal they would still be making more money. I just realized something.........does anyone remember what day is coming up in the midst of all this biatching? That's right fellas, it's MOTHER DAY! Now I have to go put more over priced gas in my truck to go out and buy some over inflated price gift. Of course I don't have to, BUT I'd be sleeping on the couch. Maybe she would understand that I need all the money to pay for our over inflated price neccessities.

 

[fishdog4449]

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The gov't supsidises much of the cost in some countries, don't know if thats the case with china but it could be.

 

[JCF350]

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China and other resource hogs

Never mind

 

[mscher]

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For those that completely supporting the supply and demand law and saying that China and India is pushing the prices up.......How come they are paying $1.48/gal in Shanghai right now????????wouldn't big oil be making more money if they would sells all their supply here? why would they be selling it for $1.48 over there when they could dump it all here? even at $2.00/gal they would still be making more money. I just realized something.........does anyone remember what day is coming up in the midst of all this biatching? That's right fellas, it's MOTHER DAY! Now I have to go put more over priced gas in my truck to go out and buy some over inflated price gift. Of course I don't have to, BUT I'd be sleeping on the couch. Maybe she would understand that I need all the money to pay for our over inflated price neccessities.

FWIW

An oil expert stated on the radio, that crude oil is traded world wide in US DOLLARS (exception is Iran, that wants to change to euros and yen).

If a country has a great (for them ) currency exchange rate with the US dollar, then they are really getting oil on the cheap.

The fact that we are paying for oil with our own US dollars, is what is really hiking our prices, or so they say.

Don't forget your mother this weekend, not matter what

 

[waterinthefuel]

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That is partially correct. The currency exchange rate is not the ONLY reason we pay more, but it does have an impact.

Good post, a forgotten bit of information.

 

[zach103]

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I kinda agree.. im still in high school so parents buy their kids cars and pay for their gas and the kids still complain even tho they don't pay.. doesnt make sense to me.. my car is my dads old work car before he got a company car so im lucky but still pay for all my gas...its a cherokee so not great but still better than some of the suvs and trucks you guys have.. i have a bumber sticker that says "Gas Prices Stink" but other than that i dont complain and i agree its starting to get annoying listening to everyone.. theres nothing we could do(i think) so just go with it.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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Many people in this great country live paycheck to paycheck. These people have cut back long long time ago. What is to cut back when there is nothing to cut back on?

IMO, if we quit buying so much stuff made in China, just maybe their growth wouldn't be as booming for them as it is now. Why is it that the mentality that we need to make 3rd world countries better while we destroy our own? This has me terribly confused. Not really, because I know it is GREED!

I can remember when color TV's came out. It took the population about 10 years to for the majority to have. Inside plumbing took people years to get due to the expense. In todays time, when something hits the market, within a short time everyone has it vs the way it was. Things got to easy for people to live beyond their means. Now it has effected many of us in many many ways.

Just 4 years ago, to fuel my service van was between $45 to $55. Now, the pump shuts off at $100 and then it isn't a full tank. 2 fill ups a week,,,,gotta thank my employer for the gas card. Even still, they have asked me to limit minor runs to the stores and to limit my personal travel with it...........SS

 

[jcsercsa]

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Yet again, ol' waterinthefuels gonna come into a thread and throw a fat monkey wrench into it.

Who is the company that hires all the people to put guns to our fat, lazy American heads and make us buy gas? That company, and therefore, those people, do not exist. Every gallon of gas you buy is voluntary. So you really have not a leg to stand on to complain about gas prices. We NEED food, so food price increases complaints are legit, but we don't need gas. At least we don't need SUV's. Sorry, from a scooter rider, no sympathy here. I filled my scoot up yesterday, 125 miles on 2.6 gallons. That's what I'm talking about. And thats actually **** poor, I've gotten better mileage than that. That included some interstate riding, which drinks gas. With the sole use of my bike, I spend less on gas now than I did 10 years ago using my truck (the same one, ironically.)

However......with the increase in gas and no corresponding increase in pay, people have less "play" money. Let's face it, play money is what keeps the economy going. If we ONLY bought food and gas, the economy would practically shut down. We need people to buy boats, planes, cars, TV's, VCR's (wait, I mean DVD players), etc etc etc. If people simply don't have the money to spend on other luxury items, this economy will hurt.

So while JB's idea of cutting back is ok for the individual, it is not ok for the economy as a whole. Basically, if everyone did what JB said, we would enter a recession very quickly. A full blown real one, not a liberal media made up one.

That means we have a reason to complain, because now we can't help the economy keep rolling as we have no money left over to help it, we spend it all on just what we need to function in our daily lives. That is a legitimate complaint, IMO.

Great post waterinthefuel. couldnt have said it better !!! John

 

[JB]

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"So while JB's idea of cutting back is ok for the individual, it is not ok for the economy as a whole. Basically, if everyone did what JB said, we would enter a recession very quickly. A full blown real one, not a liberal media made up one."

I have cut back my use of energy. That is it. On about $1600 a month income I don't have options to spend the economy into good health without using up my savings or incurring debt that I could not pay. That would be really stupid.

 

[BoatBuoy]

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The fact that we are paying for oil with our own US dollars, is what is really hiking our prices, or so they say.

Beam me up Scottie. It's getting outa hand down here.

 

[mscher]

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Beam me up Scottie. It's getting outa hand down here.

Seems odd, but remember, the U.S. dollar is no longer the "currency standard", that most of the rest of the world pined over, for the last 50 years.

We Americans all remember the feeling when someone handed us a Canadian quarter, or God forbid, a Mexican peso.

Now it's a different story.

 

[SgtMaj]

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Quit whining, you can complain when oil costs more than $200/barel, at least according to the president of opec, who will be cutting production again, to force prices even higher. You didn't really think the oil industry cared if you lived or died, did you? Silly you.

 

[JCF350]

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Seems odd, but remember, the U.S. dollar is no longer the "currency standard", that most of the rest of the world pined over, for the last 50 years.

You only get this from the politico motormouths. Go out and show dollars vs the local currency? they'll take George every time.

 

[SgtMaj]

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You only get this from the politico motormouths. Go out and show dollars vs the local currency? they'll take George every time.

Not so much anymore... Dollar vs. canadian dollar, or euro, no thank you George... those were just the first two I could think of off the top of my head.

 

[Bigprairie1]

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Not so much anymore... Dollar vs. canadian dollar, or euro, no thank you George... those were just the first two I could think of off the top of my head.

From this Canadian's perspective I think the U.S will always have a strong dollar. What you are seeing is other countries starting to get their 'game on' and becoming competitive....and competition is always a good thing for everyone. Give it a couple of years when the current U.S recession issues start to fade off and the U.S dollar will again be on the rise....how much? who knows.
The credit/lending issue that hit the U.S I think effectively scared off a bunch of international investors.....I think temporarily.
(...that said, I better get my next boat stateside while the C-dollar is at par/competitive!!
All good.
BP

 

[JCF350]

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Not so much anymore... Dollar vs. canadian dollar, or euro, no thank you George... those were just the first two I could think of off the top of my head.

Can't say about euro really (don't see it should as they are still "disagreeing?" over the central bank (French/German) or something like that.

Show a euro or a dollar around the Caribbean and other like places and it's dollars.

Haven't seen it personally in Canadian yet (could be the distance thing).

Elsewhere? if they can legally spend it, it's dollars. My experience anyway

 

[heycods]

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Seems to me that it is much more productive to adapt to reality than to whine and look for someone to "blame".

For example, think about what you have done and can do to reduce what you spend on food and energy (not just gasoline) to a tolerable level.

Everywhere you look these days someone publishes a list of how to save on gas and other energy. Here is what I have actually done:

Reduced optional travel by 75% and reduced grocery trips to town by 50%.
Sold my SUV and my boat.
Bought a used Diesel car.
Reset the AC thermostat to 80*.
Reset the heating thermostat to 60*.

There is more to come, but I will tell about it when it is done.

I have decided to not be a victim. I spend less on energy, including $4.20 diesel fuel, than I did a year ago.

It is a good feeling to "slay the dragon". I control my life, the price of oil does not.

Isn`t that letting the Dragon make a hermit out of you??