Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

evin300

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Like many of you, I completely replaced all of the wood in my boat (years ago)<br /><br />I could only speculate as to how the water entered the wood, as it was a used boat. My best guess? It was left outside uncovered, along with many abandoned fastener holes in the floor.<br /><br />So, I re-built all of it, and even re-foamed it. The new floor was covered in fiberglass and everthing (including the seats) where glued to the floor (no mechanical fasteners!)<br /><br />About 4 years later, water was discovered in the floor cavity! So what went wrong?<br /><br />I have my own theory, but I am open to suggestions. Let me add the follwing to paint a clearer picture, and lets hope this doesnt happen to any of you!<br /><br />Boat 16' fiberglass runabout with 90hp outboard.<br /><br />Used on freshwater lake for approx. two weeks per year.<br /><br />Trailered and stored in a heated garage the remainder of the year.<br /><br />Hull condition excellent, except for several small gelcoat chips and a small area at the stern end of the keel where the gelcoat was rubbed off.<br /><br />Thanks for any input, I think we can save some future heartache for many others here.
 
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DJ

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

evin,<br /><br />Obviously, water (evil) found its way in somewhere. :( <br /><br />I'm not a big fan of storing boats outside covered. As far as I'm concerned, that just makes a great big water (condensation) factory.<br /><br />We all (including the factory) make mistakes as far as water drainage goes. It's a never ending battle.<br /><br />If it's any consolation, the mariners of old days invited water into their boats to keep the beams and planks swelled.<br /><br />We've been led to believe that we can keep them bone dry-a myth.<br /><br />Here in Arizona, it's a non-issue. We seldom see humidity levels above 50%. Today it's 6%.<br />THat doesn't help you, but I believe the constant wetting and drying adds to the rot problem, especially in northern climes.
 

JasonJ

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

If gelcoat is worn off and bare fiberglass is exposed, water can wick through, but you only used the boat two weeks in a year. It could either be condensation if you are covering the boat tightly, or you are taking on water when you do go out. You should store the boat under overhead cover (carport, pole cover with tarp, garage), with no tight fitting cover, all drain plugs out, and bow raised so any water that made its way in while in use will drain out. As far as how it can come in, water can work its way through the lower motor bolts, kicker bracket bolts, faulty drainplugs, you name it.<br /><br />I had an old 63 17ft runabout that I restored and used every weekend from April to October, and never took on a drop. I kept in under a carport during that time, and kept it out in the back yard under a tarp covered wood frame that sat on the boat and kept moisture out but allowed air to circulate. Good Luck....
 

evin300

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

"If gelcoat is worn off and bare fiberglass is exposed, water can wick through"<br /><br />Yes, I believe this is what happened, during ony two weeks per year! In my case the boat was stored during the off-season in a heated garage.
 

snapperbait

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

Any carpet in this boat???<br /><br />What type of resin was used in the rebuild(polyester or epoxy)???
 

evin300

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

No carpet, textured vinyl installed with contact cement, except for bilge area, which was coated with a sealer. I beleive it was polyester resin. The actual glasswork was performed by a local shop using normal procedures. I could check on this to make sure.
 

crab bait

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

i wrote this many times..<br /><br />polyester has no rot protection at all..<br />rot causin' moleclues pass rite thru it as if it were a sive... also ,, poly is not a glue an does not truley bond to wood..<br /><br />also,, what kind of wood is it..?? <br /><br />pine ply is poor wood for rot.. where as douglas fir ply weathers rot a whole lot better...
 

mellowyellow

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

maybe in your effort to keep water out, you sealed<br />it too good and it couldn't breath/dry out when<br />needed? seems simple condensation will rot it<br />over time if the water is trapped...<br />my .02,<br />M.Y.
 

evin300

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

Tks for the help guys, I do believe that JasonL got it right, water does seep through open fiberglass strands! Beware, and dont drop the ball when it comes to the below water portion of the boat.
 

Tinkerer

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

Do you have drain plugs in right spots? Need one at lowest point of rear V and store with bow raised like someone else said and it should drain any moisture.<br /><br />Even if it leaked, can't see two weeks of freshwater floating around in it doing all that damage if it was dry the rest of the year.<br /><br />Also wondering about heated garage. Would that cause condensation in closed cavities? If the heating isn't constant, condensation could occur during cold periods.
 

evin300

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Re: Why did my transom, stringers and floor rot?

Hi Tinkerer, I discovered the water at least 4-years after the initial repairs. At that point I installed a drain plug in the transom at the very bottom, and drained out about 2-gallons of water.<br /><br />I sealed the gelcoat on below water portion of the boat, and its been fine since. However in time I am sure the wet wood will begin to rot again.<br /><br />My main reason for posting this, is for others to be aware of what can happen. <br /><br />Also to have codensation, you need a source of damp air. Since the area in question was completely sealed and dry, I doubt that could be an issue. Damp air would have had to find its way through the exposed strands of fiberglass. I guess its possible, but much more likely that water from the lake wicked through the strands.<br /><br />Once water enters the sealed area, the damage is done, and of course condesation will probably occur, but at that point it really doesnt matter.<br /><br />Remember, this cavity is filled with floatation foam, once it gets wet, there is no way to dry it out, short of removing the floor. I think in my case, I caught it soon enough, that hopefully the wood did not get soaked.
 
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