Why support Dubya(Bush)

snapperbait

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Re: Why support Dubya(Bush)

Algore won the election and couldn't even get the nomination this time around? The mans a disgrace in the eyes of his own party.<br />
Ever consider that maybe Gore thinks the party is a disgrace? :confused:
 

Skinnywater

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I noticed, Ensign Skinnywaters latest post and it looks as though he is trying <br />to show his communication skills. Brief and to the point. Good grammar and <br />Punctuation. Must be bucking for a promotion soon. Just thought I would bring<br />him to your attention.
Why thanks Link for the acknowledgement.<br />If that promotion was important to me I'd just click a smilely face after any joke told and play verbal grabtail with a goodbuddy. :D <br /><br />Nope, not my style. This has been a source of my own entertainment. Nine hundred sixty some odd, of barely tolerated posts.<br /><br />It's likely as soon as I make a friend here, or if my posts get appreciated or welcome, I'd surely delete this site from my favorites. ;)
 

BinLurkin

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Subject: Three Texas surgeons<br /><br />Three Texas surgeons were playing golf and discussing surgeries they had performed. One said, "I'm the best surgeon in Texas. A concert pianist lost 7 fingers in an accident. I reattached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England."<br />One of the others said, "That's nothing. A young man lost both arms and legs in an accident, I reattached them, and 2 years later he won a gold medal in field events in the Olympics."<br />The third surgeon said, "You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a cowboy who was high on cocaine and alcohol rode a horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the horse's arse and a<br />cowboy hat. Now, he's president of the United States."
 

rolmops

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Skinnywater, I really really love your posts.<br />Your grammar still does need some improvement (invovlved),but on the whole, it is better than that of some of our more politically involved members.<br />About your opinion? Most people on this board think it interesting,but they will vote with their gut feelings and their heart.<br />Please try not to insult the way they feel.You could try to convince them to change their feelings, that might be a better way to proceed.
 

ebbtide176

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i may not be a political powerhouse, but i can understand who speaks with forked tongue. i said this long long ago - i have only held 1 person in contempt in my whole life, and that person dwells here. i have not apologized, nor has that person. so, that is not important now... i have learned there are some here who appear to be highly educated, but without a sense of reality, to me. and there are some who give the basics of our (American) constitution....<br />and never forget skinny was around, telling us the inner working of our country's political tendancies long before most of you were born (here) ;)
 

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If kerry gets elected the country will get what they voted for, a man who lies thats why the Clinton lovers like him so much.<br /><br />He was in nam for like three and a half mounths, and he says he got all these metals, why didn't any of the other men he was with get any metals? He protested againts the war, threw his metals in the trash, then it turns out they whern't his metals.........he's a lieing POS
 

BinLurkin

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Skinnywater made a typo. Jeez, relax. If you don't, next thing you know we'll have Kerry in there lying just like the one who's in now. We all know we'll be communist's if he get's in. Gee whiz, what if someone lies again about something that is none of our business to begin with? We sure don't want that, because the only difference is you rich people, myself included, won't get to be Billionaires instead of only Millionaires. I know, we don't want this country to prosper, long as we got millions, or billions, that's not enough to survive is it, to devil with the country. That's what the founding fathers said, ain't it?
 

ebbtide176

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now, i'll try to comment on the orig topic, without puttin my foot in my mouth.<br /><br />remember that we got hit on our own soil.<br /><br />iraq had a dictator that hated us, and had WMD, plus killed his own people for his own agenda, plus paid suicide bombers, and totally scoffed at the worldwide forum, called the UN.<br /><br />we all basically agreed to find the terrorists, and we believed our gov in giving us the name of OBJ, so we went into Afghanistan. But, we had probs believing our gov, in going into Iraq. herein lies the basic split in our country. many were questioning the strategies of our military, and going into Iraq.<br /><br />soon, we had the full breadth of our media conglomerates pushing the horror of war. following that is the opposition to the current administration. there are guesses, suppositions, and flat out claims of lying being listed against our administration. we still haven't found whether this is true for our president or the congress as a whole, but it is being pushed hard on every level of media, which we get piped into our homes via internet, tv and radio.<br /><br />many here still feel some sense of admonishment against those who would try to hurt this country, others feel we've gotten bitter when we should follow the views of other countries.<br /><br />we have to consider the stance this powerhouse of a country takes on the world stage. whether we condon, or rebuke. whether we will turn the cheek, or appease, or stand against the things that we hold morally right.<br /><br />our current administration is willing to place our military against all forms of terrorism, and other candidates are for having more meetings and compromises, avoiding any forms of violence.<br /><br />you've got to ask yourself, does violence begat violence? or does submission prevent violence? <br /><br />personally, i've found that submission does not stop it, but allows it to continue. and the only way to stop it, is to fight hard, and give the reality of violence back to those who would harm others, until they have been killed, or surrender. but that's just my thoughts. this is not a black/white issue, and cannot be resolved by words. otherwise, we would not have people coming over to our country trying to kill us.
 

BinLurkin

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There you go, what ebb said. Only 2 things wrong with GB 2 is he can't speak & more importantly he bankrupted the nation to help people like me who don't need help to begin with.
 

ebbtide176

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you might be right binlurkin, you just might be right. but i seriously doubt it. we've been through some much harder economic times than this war. remember the 30's?<br /><br />well, ok, that's too long ago, the 1900's. i didn't feel that pain, but in the 80's i felt that gas crunch. now its worse, huh? <br /><br />i hate paying more for gas, but we still can't make OPEC follow our opinions...<br /><br />thankfully, i don't really have to worry too much about the world around me, i have a job, still can pay for my mortgage, and could probably ignore a few more administrations. it makes me wonder how anyone who was that concerned with the current state of our country affairs could really even think about being anything but strictly adhering to the constitution we were founded upon. <br /><br />the constitution would be just a rough draft, for the minds of the last decade of left leaning politicians...
 

BinLurkin

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Ebb, you sound a lot like me, I appreciate your doubt too. I have an 85 year old father who is stuck in the 30's. Wouldn't be surprised how many of us here on the board do. Well, I don't like the price of gasoline here in Cal either. I just filled up my gas hog today at $2.03 per gallon. I like yourself don't have to worry to much about anything. For example a D or an R in the white house. I think like you alluded to that if how anyone who was that concerned with the current state of our country affairs could really even think about being anything but strictly adhering to the constitution we were founded upon would be one brick short of a load. We are supposed to be one nation here, although sometimes I wonder. There are those who profess to be more knowledgeble than our founding fathers & want to change things to suit themselves.
 

Boomyal

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Originally posted by BinLurkin:<br /> There are those who profess to be more knowledgeble than our founding fathers & want to change things to suit themselves.
Bl, you mean like John Kerry, et al? I'm startin to like you. You keep makin more and more sense, with this and majority rule and all. :D
 

Skinnywater

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About your opinion? Most people on this board think it interesting,but they will vote with their gut feelings and their heart.<br />Please try not to insult the way they feel.You could try to convince them to change their feelings, that might be a better way to proceed.
I'm not trying to be insulting rolmops. I'm certainly more relaxed then the topic starter.<br />If I'm not able to convince anyone here about my political engagement, then please let me convice you not to take anything I say personally.<br />I assure you your responses won't be taken personally by me.<br /><br />Would this post qualify as convincing? (I actually have little contests with myself to see how well I do without a spell check.)<br /><br />How the majority of people feel about politics today is a well rehearsed street fight without a winner. This country is so divided that it's already endangering our national security.<br />The division here is the same you see on the news, hear on the radio and read in print.<br />The division is nasty and is pretty viscious.<br />Bush or Kerry as President won't be able to stop this decay. I'm not proud of where we all are taking this. <br />Kerry wallows in it, Bush was part in party to it. And fails to address or acknowledge it.<br />A failure in leadership in both accounts.<br /><br />The hate from a Democrat today isn't any different then the hate from a Republican back in the last administration.<br />So both are guilty in that respect.<br />The Socialistic direction of the Democrats today is a natural evolution of the damage done to our Constitution/Country by the Wilson and Hoover administrations.<br />Both partys have been responsible for a foreign policy that has gravely mistaken the reasoning that more American involvement in other Countrys affairs, rather then less was a proper course. Obviously most here agree with this policy.<br />In this respect, both partys have been and will be guilty of long lasting and genuine damage.<br />To drive this point home. This Countries foreign policys have been directly involved in the governments and militarys of all the countrys we have serious problems with today, for the past 50 years.<br />The governments and militarys have been supplied, built and made rich by us, yet the people of those regimes live the same as they did a century ago. Surely ingredients for hate and discontent.<br /><br />This involvement, this foreign policy, this blatant deviation from our founders original intent, is not a Conservative ideology, nor is it a Liberal ideology. <br /><br />No rolmops, this "My 3 day old piece of roadkill tastes better then yours." Isn't so much of a insult as it is an exercise of a different view.<br />It doesn't take much of a grammar student to see where we've been and where we are heading to see both partys using the same imposing foreign policy as the problem. <br />This country doesn't have the will, direction or strength to defeat all our enemies now. We are clearly in a stalled/defensive stance from one of unity and strength two years ago. A Democrat would blame this on the Republican and vice-versa. Yet neither accepts responsibility.<br /><br />You're absolutely correct Bin Lurkin. As long as the bank account is pat, food's in the freezer and the gas guzzlers are parked in front of the homestead, why would you care about the stinkin' Constitution.<br />We're all content to sell out the Constitution and in our denial play the blame game on the other guy.<br />"I pledge allegiance to my party because the other one stinks more."<br />Factually it's come to this. So pardon me if I don't cosy up to big two party flocks, since they both look so rediculous.<br />Truely it's a collective fault and yet one with a simple longstanding written solution. And one worthy of honest consideration, if not sacrafice.<br /><br />I'm not taking credit for being so smart. I set myself up to be humbled quicker then most. But history is available to all of us to clearly see that there was plenty of hate, discontent and division, foul play, corruption, stupidity and herded masses of sheeple, in all of the past great fallen civilizations.<br /><br />Fact is, I don't hear enough of this kind of talk here or anywhere else in this Country right now. If I make myself sound insulting, or a fool, or completely out of touch, "a brick short of a load".<br />I'll still consider myself as part of this community.<br /><br />As long as you see fit to fight over the stinking roadkill, I'll see fit to use words like denial, sheeple, embracers of the status quo. <br />It's as automatic as your own responses. <br /><br />ebb, your trying to run me off ain't ya. ;)
 
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