Wine bladders for floation bags!

[deerhound]

Was interested in article here in UK of person who used the plastic bladders from wine containers for flotation purposes, the only problem was when storing the boat they were holed by mice who took a liking to the wine! I now wonder if the large type of soft drinks bottles would be a serious alternative to foam which can hold water? these bottles could also be placed under the floor or wherever space permits? but wonder if they would be better than sealed foam filled compartments? JBD

 

[EZLoader]

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Hi Lurcher,<br />That's a great idea if the floats will hold up over time (and the mice don't take a liking to soft drinks... ) <br /><br />Iboat member "Boomyal" did something similar with milk jugs. He held them in place with expanding foam. I like the idea since you should get more floatation value from the encapsulated air in the jugs than from just plain foam by itself (which sometimes get waterlogged). You should still foam all around the jugs to add soundproofing and maybe some structual value.<br /><br /> <br />Check out his complete boat restoration at the site below:<br /><br /> http://www.shareaproject.com/pages/projectTut,p,92,00.html

 

[JasonJ]

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The great floatation alternative, a time honored tradiiton on this site. I am all for experimentation, but one advantage foam has is if the hull gets violantly holed, and your boat is well foamed, you lose very little, if any floatation. The other advantage of foam is you never have to wonder if all those bottles have lost their seal or developed leaks. Another problem with bottles and such is you have less floatation as the temps drop due to the containers contracting (cold air contracts, bottles can collapse slightly, you have less floatation. <br /><br />If you foam around the bottles, you have that foam expanding against the bottles, which can compress them. If compressed enough, they could lose their seal, you then have a void that can hold water. My recommendation, go with straight 2 part foam. It is the only way to be sure. Anything else that involves voids or airtight compartments or containers are at risk of becoming compromised. I think we all can think of what happened the last time someone touted watertight bulkheads.....

 

[Bondo]

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Originally posted by lurcher:<br /> Was interested in article here in UK of person who used the plastic bladders from wine containers for flotation purposes, the only problem was when storing the boat they were holed by mice who took a liking to the wine! I now wonder if the large type of soft drinks bottles would be a serious alternative to foam which can hold water? these bottles could also be placed under the floor or wherever space permits? but wonder if they would be better than sealed foam filled compartments? JBD

Ayuh,........ I say Go For It..........<br /><br />I don't know if the archives are back up,+ running or not,......<br />But,......<br />A Search Should bring up Alot of conversations about this subject,........<br /><br />I Know I've posted a few Million Words about it.............<br /><br />Plastic Soda Bottles are about Totally Indestructable,....... As long as they're Not exposed to Sunlight.........<br /><br />And,..... There Ain't No Sunlight in My Bilges........

 

[gregmercer]

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Unfortunately the search doesn’t bring up any posts that were posted before the end of December <br /><br />Greg

 

[JC1933]

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Bondo hi.<br /><br /> Would you let me know how to ad a quote to a message? also adding links thanks..

 

[CN Spots]

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With my luck, the Coast Guard would arrest me for having "open containers of alcohol" onboard my vessel. <br /><br />spots

 

[Bondo]

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Must be they actually fixed the Search function while iboats was down,......... <br /> Here's 6 hits on My posts about Soda Pop Bottle Floation......... <br />

Originally posted by jc1933:<br /> Bondo hi.<br /><br /> Would you let me know how to ad a quote to a message? also adding links thanks..

jc,... Click on the Reply w/Quote button at the top of each post to get a quote like this 1.....<br />

Or,... For this type of quote,... Click on the "Post a Reply" button Way down at the Bottom of the thread page.......

When you get to the "Full Reply Page",......<br />There's All Kinds of Buttons for adding Urls,.. Pics,.. Etc....

 

[JC1933]

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Originally posted by Bondo:<br /> Must be they actually fixed the Search function while iboats was down,......... <br /> Here's 6 hits on My posts about Soda Pop Bottle Floation......... <br />

Originally posted by jc1933:<br /> Bondo hi.<br /><br /> Would you let me know how to ad a quote to a message? also adding links thanks..

jc,... Click on the Reply w/Quote button at the top of each post to get a quote like this 1.....<br />

Or,... For this type of quote,... Click on the "Post a Reply" button Way down at the Bottom of the thread page.......

When you get to the "Full Reply Page",......<br />There's All Kinds of Buttons for adding Urls,.. Pics,.. Etc....

Thanks Bondo... J,C,...

 

[Luna Sea]

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What about the ping pong ball thread???

 

[Bondo]

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Originally posted by Luna Sea:<br /> What about the ping pong ball thread???

That 1 Might be in there,.... I didn't look that Closely,........<br />The Ping Pong Ball thing was Somebody Else's Idea.........<br /><br />I personally believe that Soda Pop Bottles will Outlast Mankind,............. <br />Super Strong,+ Last Forever as long as they Don't see the Sun.....

 

[JC1933]

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web page

 

[18rabbit]

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I’ve discovered these plastic gizmos inside of UK brews such as Guinness and others from Scotland and Ireland. The cans have either a ping pong ball or flying saucer looking thing, a fishing bobbin thing inside of the bottles. Collecting enough of the little plastic doodads for floatation would be half of the fun.<br />

 

[Uncle Dave]

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The 2 part foam is part of the boat structure. Use something that has no structure and your boat is a lot weaker. Perhaps to the point of breakup in heavy seas. <br />Something other than foam will never be a problem until there is a problem.<br />You would also be liable for death or injury when using the wrong product.<br />But the recyclers will love ya for the effort.<br /><br />Uncle Dave

 

[2manyboats]

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If you're going to use bottles, why not fill them with foam and forget about whether the seal gets broken? Then foam around them if you like and no compression problems.

 

[Bondo]

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why not fill them with foam

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$<br /><br />That's the Whole Point.......... <br /><br />I've opened 10 year Old Soda Pop Bottles that still went"Phhiisssssssssssssst"............<br /><br />Kept out of the Sun,......... There's No Issues,....... They'll Last Forever.............

 

[Steel Reserve 211]

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Whats the whole point?<br />Is foam too expensive to fill soda bottles with?

 

[Bondo]

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Well,.........<br /><br />The 2 part mixable Foams ARE rather Expensive...............<br /><br />And,....... The Bottles,...... Just Don't Need It........<br /><br />The Idea is to Eliminate the Foam.......