winterizing

jwilkey84

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let's get some different people's opinion's going about winterizing. Do you run the fuel out, or leave treated fuel in the carb all winter? Do you need to run anitfreeze through the cooling system? Do you need fogger? Stuff like that!!
 

bgbass.1

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Re: winterizing

what i do seeing im in new england and it gets real cold is I use stabil in gas put on muffs and start then I unhook gas from motor and spray fogging oil into carb. till it dies then i take spark plugs out and spay fogger into each cylinder and tun fly wheel a couple of times and replace plugs then I change the lower end oil leave motor in down position cover well and leave till spring.
 

jwilkey84

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Re: winterizing

well guess what, I read the "sticky" and it does not answer my questions. And, I just want to see what some other guys are doing. The "sticky" says nothing about if you should or shouldn't run all of the fuel out of the carbs, or leave treated fuel in there. It doesn't clearly tell me what to do as far as ensuring all the water is out of a simlpe ouboard motor. Will all of the water drain out of the powerhead by gravity, or is there still going to be some trapped in there, and if so will it hurt anything? It also doesn't say anything about fogging the cylinders and that kind of thing, so I would definitely say after reading your "sticky" I am still stuck. I just want to know the proper way, and am interested in some ideas that others have.
 

HighTrim

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Re: winterizing

bgbass pretty much summed up all your questions before you asked them. Re read his post. WHen he says leave it in the down position, that is to drain the water. Good luck.
 

jwilkey84

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Re: winterizing

I understand that, and that is how I have always done it. I just didn't know if there were spots where water could sit, even in the upright position. I was just getting ready to winterize and I had hear a few things that I don't normally do, and was wondering how everyone else does it. Should the gas be ran out or left in the carb? I usually run it all out of gas, but someone told me that would dry out all the seals and the float, is that true? And there is the guy in the "sticky" who said his motor locked up because he ran it out of gas, this has never happened to me, and I hadn't heard of it happening till now. I just want to do it all right? Maybe I have not done things properly in the past, and if so, I want to stop taking those risks on my motors.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: winterizing

you didn't state the motor you have. if you have multiple carbs, the top carb runs out of gas first, thus those cylinders do not have lubrication, while the bottom carb still runs. treat the gas if multiple carbs, i use to run it out also.
 

bgbass.1

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Re: winterizing

that why you use the fogging oil it keeps every thing lubed. as far as water I have never had a problem in 30 years always drained out.
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: winterizing

Pls provide the engine model/type. There are winterizing differences between old engines, the newer VRO types and now the fuel inject/direct inject models. For instance, the newer injected models have closed systems and don't suffer from evaporation like the older carbed models do, so running them out of gas is not really an issue. With the VRO models you dont want to run them out of gas because in doing so, you will fill the carbs with oil. Personally, I follow bgbass's recommendations on my old engines: run them out of gas while fogging. I go an extra step by draining the carb bowls by hand, along with my fuel tanks. I'd contact a local Merc dealer and see if you can get a copy of their 2007 bulletin regarding today's fuel quality and winterizing/storage recommendations. They talk about alcohol fuel phase separation and long-term storage problems. It will update your opinions on today's fuel and may change your winterizing procedures. When the engine shuts off for the year, there is a small amount of water trapped inside the water pump. If you give the engine flywheel one turn, it will clear the pump. This is generally not an issue, because if it does not normally leak out before it freezes, it can expand around the rubber impeller.
 

jwilkey84

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Re: winterizing

thanks for the input. I wasn't clear, before. I was refering to older 2 cylinder outboards that only have one carb. In my case I guess running the gas out of the motor wont cause any probleme since there is just one carb not multiple.
 

bgbass.1

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Re: winterizing

just make sure to use fogging oil and you will be fine
 
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