wiring 1960 evinrude

[girlwith40]

I got marine wire and ran my wires, all new. Crimped, shrunk and painted with liquid tape.<br />Turned the key and got a click-a single click. Battery is charged,checked with meter. I have power going into solenoid but not coming out to starter. Large post on solenoid connected to starter shows 0 . Do you have any pictures of a safety switch on a moter? I was looking at other posts-I think I screwed up - Does it matter on a marine solenoid which wires are on what post.I would like to try sending you a picture from my camera phone to your e-mail- would that be o.k?

 

[lark2004]

Re: wiring 1960 evinrude

the solenoid is clicking?<br /><br />If so, check that you have 12v going into the solenoid from the battery. There should be 4 terminals, two small ones - these are the ones that energize the solenoid (12v goes to them from the ignition switch) and two large terminals, one of these goes directly to the positive post on the battery, the other one to the starter motor.<br /><br />Email is arcondie@bigpond.com

 

[girlwith40]

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i emailed pictures. Please review my old posts. Tutorial is the closest thing to my motor I've seen.Thanks. Main problem is i'm not sure where my safety switch is or what it looks like. The only other thing with wires is in the picture i sent.#2 I don't have power from solenoid to starter. Does it matter which small post has which wire on it? When I turn the key it clicks-one time. My battery is fully charged and less than 6mos old.

 

[girlwith40]

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please refer to OceanMist post "40 hp big twin will not start" The last 5-6 posts are the same problems I'm having but I don't know where the switch is

 

[MCM]

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Yes it does matter which small post has neutral safety switch wire. Maybe you could use this link to post pics. http://www.imagerage.com/image-hosting-free.php, <br /><br />You may have to use the Full Reply Form below and the image feature. This way everyone can see what you have to work with.

 

[lark2004]

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it doesn't matter which small posts the white wires go to. The solenoid is not polarized.<br /><br />The safety switch is on the starboard side of the engine, on top of the powerhead, under the flywheel. It is attatched to a small aluminium bracket that is bolted to the top of the exhaust cover. It is set right next to the timing plate and is operated by a cam that comes off the side of the timing plate. <br /><br />

<br /><br />I think you have a ground problem on the motor somewhere. Try jumping the starter direct from the battery to the starter mototr. This will bypass the starter solenoid. If that makes it spin, then we can narrow down what's missing

 

[girlwith40]

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Can the safety switch be seen without removing the flywheel?

 

[Paul Moir]

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Yes. It should be plainly visible. It's in the gap between the flywheel and the block, outside of the part that moves when you move the throttle.

 

[lark2004]

Re: wiring 1960 evinrude

When you rewired the motor, what manual did you use?

 

[dafox99]

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Just wondering what's clicking. Isn't the solenoid the only thing that clicks? If it's clicking, then isn't the safety switch OK? And if it's clicking, but there is no power on the starter side, isn't either the solenoid or the starter (shorted, and melting at this point) bad? Lark may be on to something with the bad ground. When you read no voltage on the starter side of the solenoid, where did you put the volt meter leads? If the gnd lead was on your block, maybe you have a bad ground?

 

[lark2004]

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what I was thinking Dave. The photo's that were provided to me are very hard to see clearly as they are taken on a camera-phone. I will post them IF anyone wants me to.

 

[dafox99]

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Yikes, Lark .. that IS hard to read. Need new glasses. Well, from what I can tell:<br /><br />A. If the solenoid is "clicking" .. and there is no voltage at the starter side with the negative side of the meter on the engine block, then we:<br />1. Check the voltage at the starter with the meter's ground on the negative side of the battery. If there is voltage there, then the engine has a bad ground .. we should be done.<br />2. If no voltage with this measurement, we have a VERY bad connection at the solenoid, a bad solenoid, or something is shorting this point (the starter side of the solenoid) to ground, and we are likely about to blow up our battery and melt whatever is shorting it (unlikely).<br /><br />B. If the solenoid is clicking and there is voltage on the starter side of the solenoid, then the starter is bad or has a bad connection.<br /><br />C. If the solenoid is not clicking:<br /><br />1. I'd first disconnect the two white wires , and apply 12v (use a battery charger, if you have one)where they were it to see if it clicks to eliminate a bad solenoid or solenoid connection. Per the earlier comment, which post you tie + and - to doesn't matter. <br />2. Next, I'd go with your suggestion and start bypassing things one-by-one until it does engage. From what I can tell there is a cut-out switch (is this the vacuum cutout?), the neutral safety, and the key switch itself.<br /><br />The "clicking" part that girl mentions seem to indicate our switches and solenoid are working. Could be a simple as a bad ground connection.

 

[girlwith40]

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If the safety switch is easily seen with the flywhweel in place, I DO NOT have one which could explain why I'm having a hard time. I have a seloc manual 56-70 evinrude and what you guys tell me. I did get a diagram from you but it is the same one in my book. Now my new key switch has off one click then turn it to start and it springs back to the middle so I guess you call it start and run position? We put a test light on it and it lit up at the starter but i only get 1 click when I turn the key. Now since I donot have the safety switch I am missing a ground, right? I would like to know about getting a safety switch and if you review my old posts I mentioned finding a push/pull switch by the driver seat that was never identified with a brown and white wire to it that i didn't replace because it could have been for a depth finder. I feel better seeing you guys are as frustrated as I am. Thanks

 

[MCM]

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About the best advise I could offer at this point is to toss the Seloc and find an OEM service manual and parts catalog for your motor. The manual should have the wiring diagram and the catalog will have most if not all engine sytems diagrams.

 

[dafox99]

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I'm with MCM as they also have nice toubleshooting procs. One concern is we may get it started, but those safety devices are there for a reason, and we could create an unsafe situation. If you simply don't have the switch (is missing), the starter should get no power unless you/someone has just bypassed it.<br /><br />As I understand your situation, you get a click, so your solenoid is working. This means all the stuff that in line (safety switches, cutout switches, ignition switches, etc.) are either working, or have been bypassed. If you are getting power as indicated by your test light at the starter, and your test light is hooked from the engine block to the starter terminal, then it's very likely you have a bad starter .. is it making a noise? If your test light is hooked from the negative battery terminal to the starter, you should remove the test light from the negative terminal and hook to the engine block. If the light goes out, you have a bad ground. Again, having said all that, listen to MCM .. if you have missing safety equipment, someone could get hurt.

 

[lark2004]

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The safty switch that I think you are looking for, is to prevent the engine being started with throttle open. From the pics you provided, You do have the vacumme cutout switch, this one prevents engine runaway, something you don't want to find out about.<br /><br />Where did you connect the negative wire from the battery on the motor?<br /><br />

 

[girlwith40]

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test light lights at starter with light on battery ground at motor

 

[MCM]

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Have you located the safety switch?

 

[dafox99]

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Well, I'm not a huge fan of test lights as they don't tell you anything about how much voltage you have. However, if you have voltage at the starter and it's not spinning, doesn't that mean she has a bad starter? Now, if you have a volt meter, you might see how much voltage you have. If it's very low, you have a bad connection either at the battery, the solenoid, or the starter .. or you have a low battery. I don't know how much voltage is required to light a test light? If you have good voltage (10v or more), your starter is bad. Again, to MCM's point, please don't ignore the safety equipment while you're doing this.

 

[MCM]

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I may be wrong but I'M not sure you can bypass the safety switch on this motor, at least not like you can if it were located in the control box. I think the switch on this motor has to release power to the magneto in order for the points to fire or something like that.